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#2319 - Rick Doblin

The Joe Rogan Experience

Shownote

Rick Doblin, Ph.D., is the founder and president of the Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies (MAPS), a nonprofit established in 1986 to advance evidence-based psychedelic therapy and end prohibition. MAPS incubated Lykos Therapeutics (formerly MAPS Public Benefit Corporation) which is leading drug development of MDMA-assisted therapy for PTSD.  Learn more about Psychedelic Science 2025, June 16–20 at the Colorado Convention Center in Denver, at www.psychedelicscience.org, and visit www.maps.org for information on MAPS Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Highlights

In this podcast, Rick Doblin, Ph.D., the founder and president of MAPS, shares insights on psychedelic therapy and its challenges. The discussion spans from training therapists in regions where psychedelics are illegal to exploring their potential in treating PTSD and other psychological conditions.
03:10
MDMA was legal from 1976-1985 before becoming a party drug.
23:50
Psychedelics can open critical periods for neuroplasticity, enabling long-term brain changes.
26:56
Cluster headache sufferers found relief using mushrooms in 2003.
35:14
Illegal marijuana often comes from dangerous grow operations involving harmful chemicals.
48:36
Dose differentiates medicine from poison - Paracelsus.
54:07
Psychedelic research has bipartisan support for treating PTSD in veterans and abuse survivors.
1:22:53
MDMA-assisted therapy sessions effectively support emotions without forcing trauma focus.
1:34:16
Revolutions often start with the privileged, according to Primo Levi.
1:44:25
Small Israeli-Palestinian groups use psychedelics to address traumas and promote understanding.
1:57:03
DMT experience revealed interconnectedness, including with figures like Hitler.
1:59:42
Scientific research and drug policy reform are crucial for mental health.
2:13:16
The goal is a psychedelic renaissance with cross-trained therapists.

Chapters

Can Psychedelic Therapy Reach Trauma-Affected Regions?
00:00
Why Are Psychedelic Therapies Still Illegal?
15:13
Is Bromo LSD the Answer to Cluster Headaches?
26:56
How Does Legalizing Marijuana Benefit Society?
32:22
Are Psychedelics Safer Than We Think?
45:54
Why Is Legalizing Psychedelics Crucial for PTSD Research?
54:07
Can MDMA Transform PTSD Treatment?
57:05
What Motivates Lifelong Psychedelic Research?
1:25:48
Could Psychedelics Foster Peace Between Cultures?
1:37:56
How Have Psychedelics Shaped Human Evolution?
1:47:53
What Role Do Psychedelics Play in History and Culture?
1:59:42
How Can Psychedelic Science Address Social Issues?
2:10:45

Transcript

Rick Doblin: Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day. Quick job, what a turn of his ass. This is absolutely incredible, Joe, absolutely. A series of unexpected things have led to this day...