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Best of the Pod: Wired's Kevin Kelly on Why AI Is a 50-year Overnight Success

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Best of the Pod: Wired's Kevin Kelly on Why AI Is a 50-year Overnight Success

AI & I

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AI & I

AI & I

1 DAYS AGO
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Kevin Kelly has spent over 30 years experiencing the edge of new technology: from the earliest days of the internet to the first years of Burning Man. But he’s always treated the frontier as a place to visit, not somewhere to live. It’s partially how he’s ...

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In this episode, Dan Shipper revisits a conversation with Kevin Kelly, the founding executive editor of Wired. They explore how a long-term perspective, informed by history, can help navigate the hype cycles of new technology, from the early internet to modern AI.
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AI is a 50-year overnight success
00:50
Dan Shipper welcomes Kevin Kelly to the show.
01:10
Her prose is poetic, blending cosmic themes with concrete scientific trivia.
12:53
Balance frontier exploration with stability
16:16
Intelligence is a compound, not an element
20:13
Human intelligence is a peculiar, edge-case compound.
25:44
Be the only, not the best.
32:45
Effective AI use is a skill requiring practice
34:43
Most AI-generated content is for personal pleasure, not economic gain.
42:26
AI is a mirror for self-discovery.
43:47
I was wrong about VR's slow adoption.

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Introduction
00:50
Why Dan and Kelly love Annie Dillard
01:10
How to predict the future like Kelly
12:52
What the history of electricity can teach us about AI
16:10
How Kelly thinks about the nature of intelligence
20:13
Kelly's advice on discovering your competitive advantage
25:44
How Kelly assembled a bench of star writers for Wired
29:33
How Kelly used ChatGPT to co-create a book
34:43
Using AI as a mirror for your mind
39:12
What Kelly learned from betting on VR in the 1980s
43:43

Transcript

Kevin Kelly: What I've learned with the future is that it's easy to make predictions and hard to make predictions that are true. Jaron Lanier showed me VR in 87. I was completely blown away and I thought, oh my gosh, this is the future. The VR that we had ...