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20Growth: How to Build a $100M Growth Engine: Lessons from Wispr Flow and Superhuman | Why You Should Do Paid Ads Today and How To Do Them | How to Build the Best Referral Programs and How to Crush UGC with Matt Swulinski

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20Growth: How to Build a $100M Growth Engine: Lessons from Wispr Flow and Superhuman | Why You Should Do Paid Ads Today and How To Do Them | How to Build the Best Referral Programs and How to Crush UGC with Matt Swulinski

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Matt Swulinski is one of the best growth leaders in AI. He is currently Head of Growth at Viktor, the Accel-backed AI coworker. Previously, he was Head of Growth at Wispr Flow, where he was marketing hire #1 and built the growth function from pre-launch to...

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This episode examines how modern SaaS companies can adopt e-commerce-style growth practices while adapting to a world where AI changes customers, products, marketing, and team structures.
00:00
Scalable growth starts with relentless creative testing.
04:49
SaaS growth needs an e-commerce playbook
07:46
Scale channels only after unit economics work.
17:12
AI SaaS must track every infrastructure cost
22:20
AI should multiply creativity, not replace humans.
32:16
Scale only after proving incrementality.
46:49
Measure incrementality before scaling paid growth.
59:10
AI-native systems make growth teams dramatically leaner.
1:04:27
Affiliate programs are an overlooked growth engine
1:12:05
Great products need great launches to spread.

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Why SaaS Founders Should Steal the E-Commerce Growth Playbook
00:00
How Does PLG Change When AI Agents Become the Customer?
04:47
When Should an Early-Stage Founder Start Spending on Paid Growth?
07:46
How Do You Build the Tracking Stack to Know Whether Paid Is Working?
10:36
How Much Should You Spend on Creative—and How Do You Produce 500 Ads a Month?
17:38
How Long Should You Test Paid—and How Do You Scale Meta, Google and YouTube?
23:10
How Do You Build Referral, Paywall and AEO Loops That Compound?
39:38
How Do You Hire and Structure an AI-Native Growth Team?
49:46
Which Growth Channels Are Most Underrated—and Most Overrated?
1:04:27
How Do You Build an AI Operating System That Makes Your Work Compound?
1:09:28

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Matt Swulinski: probably fire most of your marketing team. My philosophy is the e-com playbook is the right playbook for SaaS. Every single cent needs to equal a purchase or an ad to cart. Paid is the easiest way to validate that you have PLG. I say there'...