How Steve Jobs became Steve Jobs

The Vergecast

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Shownote

Long before Steve Jobs was the unstoppable force of nature atop Apple, shipping hit product after hit product, he was practically run out of the company after a series of bad product and management decisions. But as Geoffrey Cain argues in his new book, St...

Highlights

This podcast explores the transformative period of Steve Jobs' life after being ousted from Apple in 1985, focusing on his ventures at NeXT and Pixar. Author Geoffrey Cain discusses how these 12 years in exile reshaped Jobs from a flawed manager into the visionary leader who would later revolutionize technology.

00:02

Steve Jobs' exile from Apple and his ventures at NeXT and Pixar

01:30

Three major announcements: Zelda remake, Kingdom Hearts IV, and Artemis III crew

02:00

Jobs' exile and return to Apple

34:57

He learned pragmatism and became a savvier businessman.

Chapters

Steve Jobs' exile and Apple's WWDC news

00:00

Intro

01:30

90 Seconds on The Verge

01:56

Interview with Geoffrey Cain

03:46

Transcript

David Pierce: Hello, and welcome to The Vergecast, the flagship podcast of The Verge. I'm your friend David Pierce, and today on the show, we're talking about Steve Jobs, and specifically, a new book about the time between when Steve Jobs was essentially r...