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These robots could cut delivery costs by 80% | Next Unicorns This Week In Startups is made possible by: Squarespace https://squarespace.com/twist [https://squarespace.com/twist] Northwest Registered Agent https://northwestregisteredagent.com/twist [https://northwestregisteredagent.com/twist] Agree https://agree.com [https://agree.com] * Today's show: *Cytronic built a robotics-first fulfillment network, packing and shipping orders for cents instead of dollars, from small, city-adjacent micro-warehouses. Alex chats with CEO and co-founder Kevin Gibbon about how he can build a fulfillment warehouse for $1.2 million, and why it costs Amazon 50M-100M. PLUS Eyebot delivers low-cost doctor-reviewed eyeglass prescriptions following 90-second vision tests, conducted in everyday kiosks. We asked CEO and co-founder Matthias Hofmann how he's trying to simplify vision care and caught up with his Walmart and Sam's Club pilot programs. Guests Kevin Gibbon on X: https://x.com/kevingibbon [https://x.com/kevingibbon] Cytronic: https://cytronic.ai/ [https://cytronic.ai/] Matthias Hofmann on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mchofmann/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/mchofmann/] Eyebot: https://www.eyebot.co/ [https://www.eyebot.co/] Relevant Links Axios: Cytronic seed round: ****https://www.axios.com/pro/supply-chain-deals/2026/07/15/robotic-fulfillment-cytronic-13m [https://www.axios.com/pro/supply-chain-deals/2026/07/15/robotic-fulfillment-cytronic-13m] Airhouse acquired by Syncware: https://www.airhouse.io/ [https://www.airhouse.io/] Amazon News: 10 Years of Robotics: https://www.aboutamazon.com/news/operations/10-years-of-amazon-robotics-how-robots-help-sort-packages-move-product-and-improve-safety [https://www.aboutamazon.com/news/operations/10-years-of-amazon-robotics-how-robots-help-sort-packages-move-product-and-improve-safety] Serve Robotics: https://www.serverobotics.com/ [https://www.serverobotics.com/] Zipline: https://www.flyzipline.com [https://www.flyzipline.com] TechCrunch: Manna plots major US expansion: https://techcrunch.com/2026/07/08/autonomous-drone-delivery-startup-manna-plots-major-u-s-expansion/ [https://techcrunch.com/2026/07/08/autonomous-drone-delivery-startup-manna-plots-major-u-s-expansion/] TechCrunch: Eyebot Series A round: https://techcrunch.com/2025/08/26/eyebot-gets-20m-series-a-to-boost-to-expand-eye-care-access/ [https://techcrunch.com/2025/08/26/eyebot-gets-20m-series-a-to-boost-to-expand-eye-care-access/] CNET Eyebot coverage: https://www.cnet.com/health/medical/i-took-a-vision-test-in-90-seconds-with-a-robot-and-saw-the-future-of-vision-care/ [https://www.cnet.com/health/medical/i-took-a-vision-test-in-90-seconds-with-a-robot-and-saw-the-future-of-vision-care/] Walmart & Sam's Club announcement: https://www.eyebot.co/resources/walmart-and-sams-club-pilot-fast-affordable-eyeglass-prescriptions-using-eyebots-technology/ [https://www.eyebot.co/resources/walmart-and-sams-club-pilot-fast-affordable-eyeglass-prescriptions-using-eyebots-technology/] Formlabs: https://formlabs.com/ [https://formlabs.com/] Meta Ray-Ban smart glasses: https://www.meta.com/ai-glasses/ [https://www.meta.com/ai-glasses/] Google Android XR AI announcement: https://blog.google/products-and-platforms/platforms/android/android-xr-gemini-glasses-headsets/ [https://blog.google/products-and-platforms/platforms/android/android-xr-gemini-glasses-headsets/] World Health Organization: Blindness and vision impairment fact sheet: https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/blindness-and-visual-impairment [https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/blindness-and-visual-impairment] Timestamps: 0:00 Kevin Gibbons of Cytronic joins the show 5:29 How small is a micro fulfillment center? 9:59 Squarespace - Turn your idea into a beautiful website! 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Highlights

This episode examines how robotics can reduce costs and expand access in two essential industries: e-commerce fulfillment and vision care.
02:26
Robotics can level the playing field for smaller sellers
08:00
Traditional automation is costly and chaotic
09:59
Automation cuts costs while protecting workers
16:27
Automation makes fulfillment cheaper and more reliable
20:25
Prove the model before scaling
27:25
The future lies in integrated robotic logistics
29:46
Eyebot kiosks deliver prescriptions in about 90 seconds.
30:12
Technology can make vision care affordable for everyone
36:48
Eyebot expands access without replacing full eye exams.
42:29
Automation can expand vision care beyond clinic walls.
55:35
Access, not manufacturing, is vision care’s bottleneck.
57:07
Automation works best with doctors in the loop

Chapters

Kevin Gibbons of Cytronic joins the show
00:00
How small is a micro fulfillment center?
05:29
Squarespace - Turn your idea into a beautiful website! Go to https://www.squarespace.com/twist for a free trial. When you're ready to launch, use offer code TWIST to save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain.
09:59
Understanding the unit economics
11:33
Northwest Registered Agent - Get more when you start your business with Northwest. In 10 clicks and 10 minutes, you can form your company and walk away with a real business identity — Learn more at https://northwestregisteredagent.com/twist
20:24
Why fulfillment costs rise as you scale
22:29
Automatons Roll Out
29:46
Matthias Hofmann of Eyebot joins the show
30:12
Agree.com - Stop chasing invoices and automate your entire contract-to-cash stack. Go to https://agree.com and tell them Jason sent you to get 50% off for life!
30:31
Vision tests vs. eye exams
31:29
The terrifying doctor shortage
42:28
Fundraising and partnerships
47:22
Will we always need human doctors in the loop?
57:07

Transcript

Alex: Hey everybody, welcome back to TWiST. My name is Alex. Okay, rewind the clock back to the COVID era. There was a boom in warehouse hiring because we pulled forward quite a lot of e-commerce growth effectively overnight. Now today, we hear more about ...