Anthropic's Labs Lead On Fable's Capabilities + Building AI-Native Products — With Mike Krieger

Big Technology Podcast

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Mike Krieger is the head of Anthropic Labs and co-founder of Instagram. Krieger joins Big Technology Podcast live from the Big Technology AI Summit to discuss what it's like inside Anthropic the week the government forced the company to pull its frontier m...

Highlights

In this episode of the Big Technology Podcast, recorded live at the Big Technology AI Summit, Mike Krieger, head of Anthropic Labs and Instagram co-founder, offers a rare inside look at Anthropic during a turbulent week. He discusses the government-mandated removal of the company's frontier models, Fable and Mythos, and shares how working with these advanced AIs is fundamentally changing his approach to building products.

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Ignore early model release noise.

10:30

AI can now handle complex, multi-step work

29:43

Closing the gap between AI capabilities and real-world work

32:25

Token usage doesn't always correlate with high output.

Chapters

The Fable Model's Removal: A Gotham Filter-Level Backlash?

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From Task Delegation to Goal Setting: How Fable Transforms Overnight Workflows

10:30

Giving Claude More Agency: The Key to Unlocking Real-World Interoperability

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Rethinking Productivity: Why Token Counts Fail and Outcome-Based Pricing Wins

32:25

Transcript

Alex Kantrowitz: Anthropic is not just a massive model builder, it's a massive product builder as well. With products like Claude Code and Cowork that have taken off like crazy over the past few months. And Claude Code came out of a place that few of us kn...