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Highlights

Hugging Face co-founder Thomas Wolf joins Jason and Lon to discuss MicroDuck, open models, AI safety, and the company’s cybersecurity breach, followed by debates about AI regulation, robotaxis, AR glasses, internet personalities, and reality competitions.
02:01
Slack could become the context layer for AI
08:30
More than 16,000 orders from one post
17:54
Robotics enters the vibe-coding era
24:41
AI safety should follow aviation's example
32:11
Open models are less than a year behind
38:12
AI should help solve cybersecurity
42:34
A robot duck can teach programming
48:11
Start with basic safeguards before extreme AI regulation
52:29
AI is nowhere near taking over the world
1:03:26
Purpose-built robo-taxis can dramatically lower costs
1:12:20
The glasses need to reach $500
1:18:55
AI should prove itself through everyday wins
1:23:05
Clavicular is a heightened version of himself
1:26:47
Reality streaming is the new reality TV
1:32:26
Physical 100 is inspirational

Chapters

Guest: Thomas Wolf, co-founder & chief science officer, Hugging Face
00:00
Two years to build Microduck
04:17
How Hugging Face actually makes money: storage, not tokens
08:43
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10:16
Vibe-coding robotics: "train this new behavior for me"
17:18
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20:00
Thomas Wolf's P-doom and the airplane-safety analogy
23:20
The Nvidia acquisition and what changes for open models
25:18
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29:57
Inside the Hugging Face breach: stolen credentials and basic mistakes
38:39
News: Newsom's executive order and the frontier-model "kill switch"
43:33
Jason's counter-proposal: liability, insurance, and KYC for AI
45:04
News: Lucid and Bolt to put 25,000 robotaxis on European roads
1:00:08
News: Snap opens pre-orders for $2,195 Specs AR glasses
1:10:01
Off-Duty: Clavicular, the All-In Summit
1:21:43
Off-Duty: Physical 100 goes to Italy and Mexico
1:31:01

Transcript

Jason Calacanis: All right, everybody. Welcome back to This Week in Startups. It's your boy, J. Cal. I'm here with Lon Harris. I've been on the road, but finally got a decent recovery score. I'm finally back in the game, Lon. Lon Harris: Oh, your sleep sc...