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The Next War Is Already Here. The West Isn't Ready. — Yaroslav Azhnyuk, The Fourth Law & Guest Host Noah Smith, Noahpinion

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The Next War Is Already Here. The West Isn't Ready. — Yaroslav Azhnyuk, The Fourth Law & Guest Host Noah Smith, Noahpinion

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Latent Space: The AI Engineer Podcast

Latent Space: The AI Engineer Podcast

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The future of war has been evolving before our eyes in Ukraine, yet the west still plans to fight the last war. In this special episode, guest host Noah Smith (@noahpinion) and Brandon Anderson sit down with Yaroslav Azhnyuk (@YaroslavAzhnyuk), a serial te...

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Yaroslav Azhnyuk, a tech entrepreneur who transitioned from building pet cameras to founding an AI-guided drone company, discusses the transformation of warfare in Ukraine. He explains how FPV drones have become the dominant weapon on the battlefield, causing the majority of casualties and rendering traditional heavy armor increasingly obsolete. The conversation covers the rapid evolution of drone technology, from fiber optic links to full autonomy, and the critical role of AI in modern combat.
00:00
China could produce 4 billion drones
04:52
The surreal early days of the war
09:19
Fighting back is the only morally right choice
10:42
Survival takes priority over hypothetical future misuse.
14:02
Autonomy modules range from terminal guidance to autonomous navigation.
22:17
AI overcomes radio link loss at long distances
25:33
Drones cause 70-80% of casualties, dethroning artillery.
28:30
FPV drone is three orders of magnitude more cost-effective
45:06
Drones are more precise than mortars.
45:32
Using weapons without AI will become immoral.
51:34
Autonomous suicide drones will eliminate human infantry.
1:21:53
Weakness provokes conflict.
1:31:37
Broken assurances incentivize nuclear proliferation.
1:32:58
Ukraine leads in several drone categories despite Russia's overall advantages
1:51:08
Cost-effectiveness and scalability are key in modern warfare.
1:58:19
If you want peace, be prepared for war.

Chapters

Cold Open: China’s 4 Billion Drones and the Cameras-to-Explosives Pipeline
00:00
Introduction: Brandon, Noah Smith, and Yaroslav Azhnyuk
01:04
From Tech Entrepreneur to Defense: PetCube, Brave One, and the D3 Fund
05:41
The Ethics of Building Weapons: Dual-Use Technology and the Wolf at the Door
10:42
The Tech Stack: Cameras, Autonomy Modules, Interceptors, and a Semiconductor Fab
14:01
Fiber Optic vs. AI: The Radio Horizon Problem and $32/km Cable
18:47
FPV Drones: The New God of War — 70–80% of Frontline Casualties
25:32
The Five Levels of Drone Autonomy: From Terminal Guidance to Full Autonomy
28:28
The Eight Dimensions of the Autonomous Battlefield
41:37
AI Safety and the Morality of Autonomous Weapons
45:32
The End of the Rifleman? Noah’s 2013 Prediction vs. Battlefield Reality
51:31
China’s Manufacturing Advantage and Western Vulnerabilities
1:05:13
Policy Advice for Western Defense: Defense Valley and the Widening Gap
1:24:21
The Drone Race: Who’s Ahead, Category by Category
1:32:54
Countermeasures: Shotguns, Jammers, Lasers, and Fishnets
1:41:57
The Wedding and Final Takeaway: Be Prepared for War
1:58:19

Transcript

Yaroslav Azhnyuk: So, think about this. Last year, Ukraine produced 4 million FPV drones. Ukraine is not the most industrial nation in the world. China can produce 4 billion of these FPV drones. Noah Smith: Would you say that right now? China is now the s...