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Sonnet 5 Drops, Fable 5 Will Return & Fusion's First Plant Gets Licensed w/ Philip Johnston | #268

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In this episode, the mates discuss the Sonnet 5 drop, China’s cheaper humanoid robot, Fable 5 coming back online, and Starcloud CEO Philip Johnston joins to discuss data centers.  Get access to metatrends 10+ years before anyone else - https://qr.diamandis.com/metatrends [https://qr.diamandis.com/metatrends]   Peter H. Diamandis, MD, is the Founder of XPRIZE, Singularity University, ZeroG, and A360 Philip Johnston is the CEO of Starcloud [https://www.starcloud.com/]  Salim Ismail is the founder of Open ExO, a GP at Exponential Venture Capital/The Organizational Singularity Fund and a sought after global speaker and thought leader. Dave Blundin is the founder & GP of Link Ventures Dr. Alexander Wissner-Gross is a computer scientist and founder of Reified – My companies: Apply to Dave's and my new fund:https://qr.diamandis.com/linkventureslanding [https://qr.diamandis.com/linkventureslanding]      Go to Blitzy to book a free demo and start building today: https://qr.diamandis.com/blitzy [https://qr.diamandis.com/blitzy]   Your body is incredibly good at hiding disease. Schedule a call with Fountain Life to add healthy decades to your life, and to learn more about their Memberships: https://www.fountainlife.com/peter [https://www.fountainlife.com/peter]  _ Connect with Philip X [https://x.com/PhilipJohnston] Linkedin [https://www.linkedin.com/in/philipjohnst0n/] Website [https://www.starcloud.com/] Connect with Peter: X [https://qr.diamandis.com/twitter] Instagram [https://qr.diamandis.com/instagram] Substack [https://substack.com/@peterdiamandis] Website [https://www.diamandis.com/] Xprize [http://www.xprize.org] A360 [https://www.abundance360.com/] Connect with Dave: Web [https://db2.ai] X [https://x.com/DaveBlundin?s=20] LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/dave-blundin] Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/dave.blundin] TikTok [https://www.tiktok.com/@daveblundin] Connect with Salim: LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/salimismail/] X [https://x.com/salimismail] Apply for Salim’s Pilot Program  [https://openexo.com/organizational-singularity-pilot?video=I9c8STV7Hnw] Subscribe to Salim’s YouTube channel [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCh2iw67YgoRcp-oYBn89c5g] Exponential Venture Capital [https://organizationalsingularity.fund] Connect with Alex Website [https://www.alexwg.org] LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexwg/] X [https://x.com/alexwg] Email Substack [https://theinnermostloop.substack.com/]  Spotify [https://open.spotify.com/show/1thtZk5vHTXbtDHezPT7tl] Threads [https://www.threads.com/@alexwissnergross] Listen to MOONSHOTS: Apple [https://qr.diamandis.com/applepodcast] YouTube [https://qr.diamandis.com/youtube] – *Recorded on June 30th, 2026 *The views expressed by me and all guests are personal opinions and do not constitute Financial, Medical, or Legal advice. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices [https://megaphone.fm/adchoices]

Highlights

This episode explores the accelerating pace of exponential technologies, from humanoid robots and AI models to the future of energy and data centers. The hosts and a special guest discuss how breakthroughs in robotics, nuclear fusion, and space-based computing are reshaping industries and challenging conventional wisdom.
00:00
Helion received regulatory approval for its Orion Fusion plant.
02:39
Experts consistently underestimate exponential growth
05:41
Experts often resist disruptive change.
15:22
Robots assembling robots drives costs to raw materials.
21:14
Drones arrive faster than patrol officers
32:50
Government needs drive company success
38:56
Fusion is now imminent and foundational for abundance.
48:16
AI decoded ancient carbonized scrolls from Mount Vesuvius
57:47
Musk's brute-force strategy could rejoin the frontier.
1:07:27
The pause accelerated AI globally rather than decelerating it
1:23:43
Breakeven launch cost for space data centers is around $500 per kilo.
1:28:54
Most new compute capacity will be built in space within 10 years.
1:41:04
Rapid deployment and 10x cheaper energy make orbital data centers viable.

Chapters

Kicking Off: Sonnet 5, Fable 5, and a Fusion Milestone
00:00
Why Experts Keep Getting Exponential Growth Wrong
02:39
From Industrial to Domestic: The Coming Robot Revolution
05:41
The $4,900 Robot and the Breakthrough of Self-Assembling Machines
11:53
Drones as First Responders: A $100 Billion Market Takes Flight
21:14
Europe's Energy Crisis and the Nuclear Comeback
32:50
Helion's Fusion Plant: Powering Microsoft by 2028?
35:44
AI Deciphers Ancient Scrolls: A New Era for Archaeology
48:16
Musk's Monthly Grok Drops and the Race for AI Dominance
57:47
The Fable 5 Pause: Did It Accelerate or Hinder AI?
1:04:08
Starcloud's First GPU in Orbit: Building Data Centers in Space
1:15:49
A Bold Prediction: 99.9% of Future Compute Will Be in Space
1:28:54
Orbital Data Centers, Moon Mass Drivers, and the Future of Space Tech
1:41:04

Transcript

Speaker 1: It's pretty clear that Sonnet 5 now is a way to kind of fill this gap until Fable 5 is back out. A kind of mediocre capability at a high price point, but people will still need to buy it. Anthropic's flagship model, Fable 5, has been offline for...