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Future of Business: Moderna’s Founder on Innovation That Breaks Through

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Future of Business: Moderna’s Founder on Innovation That Breaks Through

HBR IdeaCast

2025/12/04
HBR IdeaCast

HBR IdeaCast

2025/12/04
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What are CEOs across industries doing to build resilience and strong cultures in an age of uncertainty? In this Future of Business series, IdeaCast hosts Alison Beard and Adi Ignatius sat down with four leading CEOs to understand where global business is g...

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In a world defined by volatility and complexity, how do visionary leaders cultivate organizations capable of true breakthroughs—not just incremental advances? This conversation with Noubar Afeyan, CEO of Flagship Pioneering and Chairman of Moderna, explores the mindset, structures, and biological metaphors that enable resilient, innovation-driven enterprises.
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Flagship started applying AI in 2018 to augment human intelligence in the innovation process
10:16
True innovation requires bold leaps, not incremental variations
13:53
The approach to experimentation at Flagship mimics natural selection and evolution
17:16
Breakthrough innovation is more feasible in high-margin industries due to tolerance for time, cost, and uncertainty
26:53
Blurring the line between scientific fact and opinion leads to worse medicine and greater societal risk

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What Makes a Breakthrough Different—and Why Companies Need Two Kinds of Innovation Teams
00:00
How AI Helps Us Leap Beyond Expert Blind Spots—Like Evolution Does
07:06
Why Your Body’s Immune Response Is a Blueprint for Smarter Biomedical Discovery
13:53
How Real-World Feedback and Collective Intelligence Turn Ideas into Impact
17:16
Can Big Companies Build Breakthroughs? The Role of Risk-Taking Culture and Global Talent
23:30

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Speaker 1: By 2030, finance could harness hindsight, insight, and foresight to elevate your function from necessary cost center to value creator. Alison Beard: Explore Deloitte's Future of Finance publication to shape your team's impact. Speaker 1: Visit...