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20VC: The AI Bubble Is Wrong | AI Margins Need to Improve | Revenue Concentration Should be a Concern | Why People Over-Estimate Open Models But Enterprises Still Fear Frontier Models with Aaron Katz, ClickHouse

Shownote

Aaron Katz is the Co-Founder and CEO of ClickHouse, the real-time analytics database powering companies including OpenAI, Anthropic, Tesla and Microsoft. ClickHouse just surpassed $350M in ARR and raised over $1B from investors including Dragoneer, Khosla Ventures, Coatue, 20VC and Benchmark. Previously, Aaron was CRO at Elastic, where he helped scale revenue from approximately $5M to $500M and led the company through its IPO. Before Elastic, he spent 12 years at Salesforce, working alongside Marc Benioff and helping transform it from a 200-person startup into a global software giant. AGENDA: 4:05 Are we in an AI bubble? 13:40 How does software change when agents—not humans—make buying decisions? 22:28 Will 90% of tokens flow through open models; can enterprises trust them? 31:09 Why did ClickHouse sponsor Fulham; and could sports teams become $20B assets? 35:49 When will ClickHouse hit $1B ARR? 38:31 Can startups still win elite talent from OpenAI? Biggest remote work mistake? 44:54 Is zero-to-$100M ARR now table stakes; or is durable growth what matters? 48:51 Is college still worth it; which jobs will survive AI? 57:58 When will ClickHouse go public; and why not next year?

Highlights

This conversation examines how an AI-driven market is reshaping software companies, enterprise technology, talent, and the path from rapid expansion to enduring business value.
00:00
ClickHouse is becoming core infrastructure for AI
04:09
Durable revenue matters more than explosive growth.
19:03
The biggest threat may be technology not yet on the market.
29:58
Humans will remain central to enterprise technology decisions.
33:34
Live sports create value that AI cannot replicate
35:51
Choose investors for lasting value, not valuation alone.
43:25
AI demand is reshaping software growth benchmarks
44:55
Durable growth requires continuously superior customer value.
51:16
AI’s growth may be real, not a bubble.
1:00:05
Public markets reward execution over short-term noise

Chapters

ClickHouse’s Path Toward a Billion-Dollar Future
00:00
Are we in an AI bubble?
04:05
How does software change when agents—not humans—make buying decisions?
13:40
Will 90% of tokens flow through open models; can enterprises trust them?
22:28
Why did ClickHouse sponsor Fulham; and could sports teams become $20B assets?
31:09
When will ClickHouse hit $1B ARR?
35:49
Can startups still win elite talent from OpenAI? Biggest remote work mistake?
38:31
Is zero-to-$100M ARR now table stakes; or is durable growth what matters?
44:54
Is college still worth it; which jobs will survive AI?
48:51
When will ClickHouse go public; and why not next year?
57:58

Transcript

Aaron Katz: We're just getting started. This seems to be accelerating at an unprecedented pace. We haven't seen revenue growth like this in our lifetime. We went zero, 12, 50, 200, and we'll finish this year north of 500. We need to get to a billion dollar...