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20VC: Why 90% of Founders Build Startups Wrong | Why AI Growth Rates are Sustainable & Remote Work is BS and the AI Talent War | Competing with Brett Taylor and Sierra: Who Wins the Customer Service War with Jesse Zhang, Decagon

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20VC: Why 90% of Founders Build Startups Wrong | Why AI Growth Rates are Sustainable & Remote Work is BS and the AI Talent War | Competing with Brett Taylor and Sierra: Who Wins the Customer Service War with Jesse Zhang, Decagon

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch

2025/09/19
The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch

2025/09/19
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Jesse Zhang is the Co-Founder and CEO @ Decagon, the conversational AI platform for customer experience. As one of the fastest growing companies in the valley, they have raised over $230M at a last round price of $1.5BN. Prior to Decagon, Jesse founded Low...

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In this episode, Jesse Zhang, CEO and co-founder of Decagon, discusses the journey of building a high-growth conversational AI company, drawing from his unique background in mathematics, early entrepreneurship, and deep tech experience. He shares candid perspectives on founding, scaling, and leading in the fast-moving AI landscape.
04:30
Smart young people from math contests should start more companies and learn sales.
09:38
Execution is key to finding the right market in the early days.
30:19
Most enterprises realize building production-level AI is too complex and time-consuming to do in-house.
31:33
The biggest problem in AI B2B for the next 1-1.5 years is hiring.
32:43
In-person work is preferred for productivity over remote arrangements
36:37
Raising at a lower valuation was strategic to avoid demotivating the team and complicating hiring.
40:06
Employee clock speed is more important than experience across functions
49:26
AI SDRs don't work
52:16
Poaching Salesforce's sales distribution would be a strategic win.

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Introduction and Sponsor Messages
00:00
Olympiad Mathematician to Startup Founder
03:43
Selling to Niantic and What I Did Differently the Second Time
05:34
Why 90% of Founders Build Companies the Wrong Way
07:16
Scaling to $50M ARR in 15 Months
12:19
Is the AI Talent War Out of Hand: How To Compete with Meta Pay Packets
31:31
Why Remote Work is Total BS
32:38
Competitors in AI Customer Experience: Sierra, Intercom and more
34:06
AI Market Predictions
37:34
Embracing Stress and Winning Culture
44:56
Quick Fire Questions: Most Underrated AI Founder, Biggest Changed Opinion
50:13

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Harry Stebbings: This is 20VC with me, Harry Stebbings, and welcome to a very special episode of The Memo. The Memo is a monthly show where we sit down with a breakout founder of the day. Today, joining us in the hot seat, we have Jesse Zhang, co-founder a...