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#2322 - Rebecca Lemov

The Joe Rogan Experience

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Rebecca Lemov is a historian of science at Harvard University and has been a visiting scholar at the Max Planck Institute. Her research explores data, technology, and the history of human and behavioral sciences. Her new book, "The Instability of Truth: Brainwashing, Mind Control and Hyper-Persuasion," is available now.https://wwnorton.com/books/9781324075264 Get anything delivered on Uber Eats. www.ubereats.com Go to ExpressVPN.com/ROGAN to get 4 months free! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Highlights

This podcast delves into the intricate relationship between mind control, technology, and societal influence. Featuring Rebecca Lemov, a historian of science from Harvard University, the discussion spans historical experiments, cult dynamics, and modern digital manipulation. It challenges listeners to consider how environments and technologies shape human behavior and autonomy.
03:16
The concept of freedom and autonomy is questioned.
20:18
Cults start when people fail to detect insincerity.
44:11
The Children of God cult practiced 'flirty fishing' and promoted sex with children.
1:10:04
West claimed to use psychoactive drugs to disassemble a person and create memories.
1:15:51
Tom considered a documentary by Errol Morris but chose to write the book.
1:18:35
West gave LSD to an elephant named Tusco at the Oklahoma zoo in 1961 or 1962.
1:38:55
Google's search result curation can shift voter opinions by up to 90% among undecided voters.
1:48:55
Norman Ohler's book 'Blitzed' reveals Nazis used meth during the war.
1:51:53
Frank Olson's death linked to ethical doubts over LSD experiments.
2:11:20
Chatbots can cause delusional self-perspectives and lawsuits over harmful interactions.
2:26:30
Technologically-aided speechless communication could violate mental autonomy.
2:46:57
Unprecedented exposure to global suffering through media

Chapters

How Do Environments Shape Our Autonomy?
00:00
Can Meditation Transform Us or Lead Us Astray?
09:04
What Happens When Communities Cross Boundaries?
31:41
Why Did the U.S. Government Fear Brainwashing?
47:44
Who Were the Key Figures Behind MKUltra?
1:13:06
Was Jolly West a Pioneer or a Problem?
1:18:35
Are Social Media Algorithms Modern-Day Cult Leaders?
1:28:19
How Did Drugs Influence Violence in History?
1:41:54
What Ethical Lines Were Crossed in Psychosurgery?
1:51:53
Should We Fear the Future of Human-Technology Integration?
2:07:59
How Does Communication Impact Our Mental Well-being?
2:23:39
Can Technology Enhance Us Without Destroying Us?
2:38:34

Transcript

Rebecca Lemov: Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day. Joe Rogan: Rebecca, very nice to meet you. Rebecca Lemov: Hi, Joe. Very nice to meet you, too. Joe Rogan: So, first of all, what...