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Sal Khan is hopeful that AI won't destroy education

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Sal Khan is hopeful that AI won't destroy education

Decoder with Nilay Patel

2025/09/08
Decoder with Nilay Patel

Decoder with Nilay Patel

2025/09/08
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This is Hank Green, cofounder of Complexly. You might remember last year when I turned the tables on Nilay and interviewed him on his own show. That was a ton of fun, and it was so much fun that they’ve brought me back again. This time, I’m stepping in for...

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Hank Green steps in as guest host of The Verge's Decoder podcast, taking the helm while Nilay Patel is on parental leave. In this episode, he sits down with Sal Khan, the founder and CEO of Khan Academy, for a timely conversation about the evolution of online education and the transformative — and sometimes troubling — role of artificial intelligence in classrooms worldwide.
08:17
Khan Academy aspires to be a high-quality, affordable, global learning institution
13:10
Nonprofits can attract top talent and drive innovation through mission-driven work.
26:16
An Afghan girl gained admission to MIT through Schoolhouse certification.
35:55
Sal Khan tested GPT-4 six months before public release, seeing its potential for education
50:44
AI can raise the ceiling for strong classrooms and raise the floor for those with limited educational access.
58:24
AI mimicking an educator's style raises questions about IP and fair use.
1:00:59
AI's significant impact in health and education likely within 3-5 years

Chapters

How Khan Academy is using technology to change education forever
00:00
Why going nonprofit was the best decision for global learning
10:44
Can peer tutoring at scale actually work?
24:00
What happened when Sal Khan saw GPT-4 before anyone else
33:34
How AI can lift up both struggling students and top performers
48:26
Who really benefits from today’s education system?
53:03
Inside the creation of Khanmigo — and the safeguards that matter
1:00:59
Will AI replace teachers — or finally give them the support they need?
1:03:24
What if AI could fix the broken incentives in education?
1:05:00

Transcript

Hank Green: Adobe Acrobat Studio. So brand new. Show me all the things PDFs can do. Do your work with ease and speed. Sal Khan: PDF spaces is all you need. Do hours of research in an instant. Hank Green: With key insights from an AI assistant. Take a tem...