For the last three weeks, a messy, dramatic battle has played out between two of the most powerful titans of tech in the world: Elon Musk and Sam Altman. As jury deliberations begin today, the technology reporter Mike Isaac takes us inside the courtroom drama and explains how a corporate dispute got extremely personal. Guest: Mike Isaac [https://www.nytimes.com/by/mike-isaac], a New York Times reporter based in the San Francisco Bay Area, covering tech companies and Silicon Valley. Background reading:  * Inside the courtroom circus [https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/11/technology/courtroom-circus-elon-musk-sam-altman.html] with Elon Musk and Sam Altman. * Musk lawyer’s question for Sam Altman on the stand: Are you trustworthy [https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/12/technology/sam-altman-openai-trial-elon-musk-lawyers.html]? Photo: Manuel Orbegozo/Reuters, Benjamin Fanjoy/Getty Images For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily [http://nytimes.com/thedaily?smid=pc-thedaily]. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday.  Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts [http://nytimes.com/podcasts] or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher [https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher]. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com [https://pcm.adswizz.com] for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.