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Apple's plot to crush OpenAI

The Vergecast

2 DAYS AGO
The Vergecast

The Vergecast

2 DAYS AGO

Shownote

It's public beta season, which means David and Nilay have been upgrading some devices this week. We talk through the good and bad of our early experiences with Siri AI, and what it'll take for next-gen Siri to be a hit. After that, we discuss the real reas...

Highlights

This week's podcast dives into the early experiences with Apple's new Siri AI in the public betas, highlighting a trade-off where complex tasks improve but simple ones become less reliable. The hosts also dissect Apple's lawsuit against OpenAI over trade secrets, the challenges facing OpenAI's potential smart speaker, and the implications of OnePlus exiting the US market.
00:00
Apple sues OpenAI over trade secrets
06:54
Simple tasks get worse while overall capabilities vastly improve
10:38
Siri can do amazing things but fails at simple ones
15:05
The complaint is crafted as a compelling narrative
25:35
OpenAI is smaller and more vulnerable
32:59
OpenAI's only viable hardware option.
40:07
Integrating ChatGPT won't change consumer behavior.
44:34
Consumers quickly abandon devices that fail to perform tasks.
50:03
Pixel 11 color names criticized
52:00
OnePlus struggled to compete at the high end.
1:03:19
Brendan Carr took a $125,000 bribe from Paramount.
1:05:06
A blatant conflict of interest.
1:16:37
X admits its algorithm was broken.
1:20:48
Foothills of the singularity
1:25:19
LLMs still hallucinate and are brittle
1:29:06
Merging two struggling companies doesn't make a great one

Chapters

Intro
00:00
Apple Betas and New Siri
02:00
Gemini Car Assistant Fails
08:00
Apple Sues OpenAI
15:00
Trade Secret Law Explained
18:00
Settlement or Long Fight
28:00
OpenAI Home Device Doubts
35:00
Smartphone Platform Lessons
42:00
Pixel Colors and Naming
50:00
OnePlus Retreat Explained
52:00
Carriers and iPhone Lock In
55:00
Brendan Carr Bribery Scandal
1:05:00
Emoji Lightning Round
1:14:00
X Algorithm Rediscovery
1:18:00
Foothills Of Singularity
1:23:00
Paramount Merger Spin
1:29:00
Wrap And Plugs
1:33:00

Transcript

Nilay Patel: Support for the show comes from MongoDB. AI-assisted and agentic coding is helping you build faster than ever. But if your data layer is still a bottleneck, what's the point? Instead of wrestling with rigid schemas or translating data formats,...