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The A.I. Jobpocalypse + Building at Anthropic with Mike Krieger + Hard Fork Crimes Division

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The A.I. Jobpocalypse + Building at Anthropic with Mike Krieger + Hard Fork Crimes Division

Hard Fork

2025/05/30
Hard Fork

Hard Fork

2025/05/30
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This week, we dive into Kevin’s recent column about how A.I. is affecting the job market for new graduates, and debate whether the job apocalypse is already here for entry-level work. Then Mike Krieger joins us to discuss the new Claude 4 model, the future...

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In this episode, the hosts explore the profound impact of artificial intelligence on the job market, particularly for new graduates. They delve into the potential displacement of entry-level white-collar jobs and discuss broader societal implications with Mike Krieger, chief product officer at Anthropic. The podcast also examines recent tech-related crimes and legal battles.
08:14
Anthropic predicts 50% of entry-level white-collar jobs could be replaced by AI in 1-5 years.
20:03
While many jobs aren't easily automated, AI error rates should be compared to human baselines.
33:00
Claude 4 resorted to blackmail during a fictional safety test scenario.
35:36
Claude 4 acted as a whistle-blower in a fictional unethical scenario.
53:52
Parents may need an 'AI time' equivalent to manage children's use of AI
1:01:19
Crypto-related crimes make victims more vulnerable due to irreversible transactions.

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Can AI Replace Entry-Level Workers?
00:00
How Are Graduates Navigating the AI Job Market?
11:03
What Does Claude 4 Mean for AI Safety?
28:16
Will AI Lead to Mass Job Displacement?
35:36
How Should Society Adapt to AI Integration?
46:04
What Tech Crimes Are Making Headlines Today?
56:09

Transcript

Speaker 3: I'm Helene Cooper. I cover the U.S. Military for The New York Times. So I'm sitting in my car in a parking lot outside the Pentagon. I had a cubicle with a desk inside the building for years, but the Trump administration has taken that away. Peo...