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Bas van Fraassen: Why Science Doesn't Reveal Reality

In this wide-ranging philosophical conversation, Bas van Fraassen reflects on the nature of scientific representation, the elusiveness of the self, the logic of freedom, and the possibility of religious faith without metaphysical foundations.
Van Fraassen defends constructive empiricism: science aims for empirical adequacy—not literal truth about unobservables—challenging scientific realism and the 'no miracles' argument. He distinguishes trusting instruments from believing theories, affirms common-sense realism about everyday objects, and argues determinism and causation are features of models, not reality itself. Drawing on Kierkegaard and Sartre, he frames free will as an inescapable existential commitment grounded in rational self-consciousness, not metaphysical indeterminism. Rejecting the self as a 'thing', he draws on Wittgenstein and Calvino to show agency persists without ontological reification. Critiquing analytic metaphysics as linguistically confounded and often vacuous, he embraces a religious existentialism—affirming God through lived faith, liturgical practice, and narrative, not argument or doctrine. His Catholic conversion emerged from receptivity and continuity, not proof, embodying a stance where logic, humility, and devotion coexist without reduction.
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Science aims for empirical adequacy, not truth about unobservable reality
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Science aims to provide empirically adequate theories, not literally true ones
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Explaining the success of science by claiming theories are true doesn't follow the pattern of scientific explanation
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Philosophy of science is a human enterprise with existential and phenomenological dimensions
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One should accept the reality of what is seen, including laboratory instruments, before relying on theories that might contradict it
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One should trust instruments before theories based on them
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Determinism and indeterminism are labels for models, not features of reality
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It's not rational to say 'I could not do otherwise'; realizing this forces the conclusion that one is free.
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Causation is tied to intentional action, not physical models
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Writing brings out ideas, and this sometimes makes people think there's external inspiration
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Self-reference creates an unavoidable paradox when trying to express all thoughts within a single language
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No language can adequately represent itself as a whole
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'X exists' is not necessarily synonymous with 'X is a thing'; it's a technical decision
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Faith in a religious context doesn't mean what some think—it's an existential commitment, not doctrinal assent
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Faith was an experiential choice rather than an intellectual one
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Metaphysical problems are self-generated and not solved by adding more metaphysics