History’s Not Just About Great Men: Peter Frankopan on Iran and Ukraine
The Mishal Husain Show
Jul 31
History’s Not Just About Great Men: Peter Frankopan on Iran and Ukraine
History’s Not Just About Great Men: Peter Frankopan on Iran and Ukraine

The Mishal Husain Show
Jul 31
Historian Peter Frankopan examines what the wars in Ukraine and Iran reveal about modern power, resilience, miscalculation, and the emerging international order.
Peter Frankopan argues that wars fought for national existence are difficult to end through force alone, comparing Ukraine’s resistance with Iran’s long-term confrontation with stronger adversaries. He assesses the costs of Russia’s limited gains, the pressure created by Ukrainian drone attacks, Putin’s denial of Ukrainian sovereignty, and the possibility of an exhausted frozen conflict. The conversation then turns to Russia’s continuity, China’s leverage and strategic calculations over Taiwan, Gulf realignment, the durability of US power, and the climate and resource pressures shaping the next decade.
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Wars of existence are difficult to defeat
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Putin’s war is about Ukraine’s existence
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The East is central to our future
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The war may end in an indefinite freeze
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Powerful leaders often miscalculate
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The US should not be written off
