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10/29/25 - Beyond the Veil: UFOs, Cryptids, and the Paranormal with Dr. Dean Bertram

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Dean Bertram has a PhD in history from the University of Sydney, Australia. His doctoral dissertation was titled “Flying Saucer Culture: An Historical Survey of American UFO Belief”. His writings have featured in a range of publications, including Fortean ...

Highlights

In this episode, historian and filmmaker Dr. Dean Bertram explores the tangled roots of modern UFO belief—not as a story of alien visitation, but as a cultural phenomenon shaped by pulp fiction, Cold War secrecy, personal trauma, and deliberate disinformation.
08:08
They decided to start the Night of Horror Short Film Festival about 20 years ago because there was no horror festival in Australia.
13:35
Used a Super 8 camera to make The Revenge of Joey Barbagallo as a kid, inspired by Raiders of the Lost Ark stunts
18:58
Reading Edith Fiore's book made the speaker reinterpret childhood 'little man' memories as potentially related to alien abduction narratives
32:59
People's experiences with grey extraterrestrials are influenced by cultural expectations from UFO documentaries, books, and movies
46:43
People report shooting Bigfoot and Dogman with no physical evidence—suggesting they may not be flesh-and-blood creatures
54:06
William Moore admitted at a MUFON symposium that he was an Air Force intelligence asset
1:02:19
The Roswell recovery was likely a lost test balloon used to detect Soviet nuclear tests
1:13:35
When Kenneth Arnold had the first flying-saucer report in June 1947, the June 1947 issue of Amazing Stories was all about the Shaver Mystery.
1:22:42
Congressman Tim Burchett discussed deep-sea alien bases, echoing Richard Shaver and Raymond A. Palmer's decades-old ideas about oceanic extraterrestrial habitation
1:28:16
Ghost stories will be shared on Halloween night

Chapters

How a childhood Super 8 film and a Sydney horror festival launched a lifelong obsession with the weird?
00:00
From Raiders of the Lost Ark to international film festivals: What sparked a career in genre cinema?
10:36
What made a private investigator pause in a bookstore—and change the course of his academic life?
16:23
Was that 'little man' at my bedside real, remembered, or something else entirely?
25:08
Why do we see gray aliens—and not, say, Victorian ghosts or Mesopotamian deities—when we 'encounter' the unknown?
35:34
If the government knows about UFOs, why would they tell us—or would they even know what to believe themselves?
49:08
How did an Air Force intelligence officer help invent the modern UFO myth—and why did believers refuse to let go?
56:42
What did pulp magazines know about flying saucers before anyone saw one—and why did it matter so much?
1:07:32
Could Atlantis, Lemuria, and deep-sea aliens all be echoes of the same ancient story?
1:19:57
What happens when Halloween isn’t just a holiday—but a doorway into how we make sense of the unexplained?
1:28:16

Transcript

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