Now We Can Call It a Quagmire
Political Gabfest
Jul 23
Now We Can Call It a Quagmire
Now We Can Call It a Quagmire

Political Gabfest
Jul 23
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This week, Emily Bazelon, John Dickerson, and David Plotz discuss why the war in
Iran has flared back up despite the increasing likelihood of political
consequences for Trump and his allies, the promises and perils for the U.K.'s
newest Prime Minister Andy Burnham with guest Adrian Wooldridge
[https://www.bloomberg.com/authors/AHJ_ZecvB3U/adrian-wooldridge], and the
chilling effect of the DOJ's subpoenas of journalists for their reporting on
Trump's Qatari Air Force One.
Here are this week’s chatters:
Emily: The Emilys: A Novel
[https://www.amazon.com/Emilys-Novel-Heather-Abel/dp/0593979532/tag=slatmaga-20]
by Heather Abel
John: Kiuko Notoya and Francesca Regalado for The New York Times: It’s So Hot
That Japan Needs a New Word for It
[https://www.nytimes.com/2026/07/23/weather/japan-excessive-heat-kokushobi.html];
Miriam Waldvogel for The Washington Post: Bam! See these killer whales explode
fish into pieces.
[https://www.washingtonpost.com/science/2026/07/23/killer-whales-smash-fish-into-pieces-videos-orcas-show/]
David: Heavy Metal Parking Lot [https://www.heavymetalparkinglot.com/]; Tom Cole
for NPR: 30 Years Of 'Heavy Metal Parking Lot,' The Classic 'Cult Classic' Film
[https://www.npr.org/2016/10/22/498827998/30-years-of-heavy-metal-parking-lot-the-classic-cult-classic-film]
Listener chatter from Phoebe Saltzstein in Albuquerque, New Mexico: Ray
Delahanty | CityNerd on YouTube [https://www.youtube.com/@CityNerd]
For this week’s Slate Plus bonus episode, Emily, John, and David discuss whether
Trump and his Republican allies will break the Smithsonian after a White House
report accused the head of the Museum of American History of pushing "radical
activist ideology." They also examine the Smithsonian's uncertain legal status,
and whether the museum's real problem is chaotic organization rather than
ideology.
In the latest Gabfest Reads [https://slate.com/podcasts/gabfestreads], John
Dickerson interviews Maggie Haberman and Jonathan Swan about their new book
Regime Change: Inside the Imperial Presidency of Donald Trump
[https://www.amazon.com/Regime-Change-Inside-Imperial-Presidency/dp/1668067242/tag=slatmaga-20].
Drawing on extensive reporting from inside the White House, they explore how
Trump’s second term differs radically from his first, from his decision-making
process to the people surrounding him and his relationship with power, money,
and the presidency itself.
Email your chatters, questions, and comments to gabfest@slate.com. (Messages may
be referenced by name unless the writer stipulates otherwise.)
Podcast production by Nina Porzucki
Research by Emily Ditto
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