5 questions to ask when your product stops growing | Jason Cohen (2x unicorn founder)
5 questions to ask when your product stops growing | Jason Cohen (2x unicorn founder)
5 questions to ask when your product stops growing | Jason Cohen (2x unicorn founder)
In this episode, Jason Cohen—a seasoned founder and growth strategist—breaks down why products stall and how teams can systematically diagnose and reverse growth plateaus.
Cohen presents a five-step diagnostic framework centered on logo retention, pricing, net revenue retention (NRR), marketing channel saturation (illustrated by the 'elephant curve'), and target market fit. He argues that high logo churn creates a 'leaky bucket' effect that caps growth regardless of acquisition efforts—and that 'too expensive' is rarely the true cancellation reason, often masking poor product-market fit or onboarding failures. Effective cancellation surveys use open-ended questions to uncover root causes, while pricing must align with positioning and perceived value—not just cost. He highlights cases where repositioning or raising prices (even 12x) increased conversions by attracting higher-value customers. NRR alone is misleading without strong logo retention, and growth levers like referrals or ecosystem partnerships become essential once core channels saturate. Finally, Cohen challenges the growth imperative itself: for many businesses, sustainable stability—not scaling—is the right, intentional goal.
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Stalled growth is rarely due to lack of effort—it's usually caused by undiagnosed structural issues in churn, pricing, positioning, or channels.
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Jason has written about 150–200 posts he's proud of over 18 years
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Cancellations grow automatically as the company grows, often overtaking marketing, like a leaky bucket
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Asking 'what made you cancel' instead of 'why did you cancel' increases usable responses
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Customers who made a purchase already found the price acceptable, so 'too expensive' is rarely the real reason for cancellation
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Small changes in onboarding can significantly reduce cancellations
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Focus on differences between good and bad customers, not just commonalities, to reduce churn
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Raising prices can increase sign-ups by selecting a higher-quality market
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Saving time and money has a price cap, while delivering more of the value customers already perceive can have a much higher cap
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Pricing can't be adjusted independently of strategy as new customers may have different demands
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A percentage loss requires a greater percentage gain to return to the original value
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The rules based on business finance mechanics apply everywhere
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Duolingo achieves high consumer Net Revenue Retention through diversified paid features like Super and Max subscriptions
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Marketing channels decline following an 'elephant curve' due to audience saturation, not an S-curve
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Relying solely on marketing and adding features while flogging existing channels won't work
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Products that sell well through direct sales may not do well with SEO and social, and vice versa
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Growing through those with an existing audience is a high-leverage growth lever
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For bootstrap founders, it's an option to be content with stable revenue, though psychologically, it's hard to accept if growth stops.
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Probability and expected value don't work for decisions like quitting, moving, marriage, or company launch
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The common thread in growth is ensuring customers get value from the product
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Gemini converts images of charts into tables that can be pasted into Google Sheets
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Even Shopify, with a skilled team, faces issues where the effects of A-B testing can disappear, and they need to double-check results
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'Be yourself. Everyone else is taken' was not originally said by Oscar Wilde
