Last August, President Trump made the unprecedented choice of moving to fire Fed governor Lisa Cook. The administration claimed she was being terminated with cause, citing an ongoing investigation in alleged mortgage fraud committed by Cook. The legal battle between Cook and the administration has been tangled in the courts for the last year, eventually reaching the Supreme Court. This June, in a 5-4 decision, the court ruled in favor of Cook. However at the same time, in a different case, the court allowed the President to fire individual members of the FTC, undermining its role as quasi-independent body not beholden to the executive branch. So what are the implications here? How can the court change the status of a body like the FTC while allowing the Fed to continue operating as is? And for how long will the Fed maintain some amount of operational autonomy? On this episode we speak with Columbia Law School's Lev Menand who just wrote a piece on these two cases for Just Security called The Federal Reserve Exception to the Slaughter Rule as well as Nathan Tankus (writer and president of Notes on the Crises). The two of them lay out the consequences of these two decisions and they dig into the generations-long legal history, starting with Alexander Hamilton, that explains how we got here. Read more: Can Trump Still Fire Lisa Cook After Her Supreme Court Win? [https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-07-02/can-trump-still-fire-lisa-cook-after-supreme-court-ruling?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=podcast&utm_campaign=odd_lots&utm_content=article] Only Bloomberg.com subscribers can get the Odd Lots newsletter in their inbox now delivered every weekday plus unlimited access to the site and app. bloomberg.com/subscriptions/oddlots [https://www.bloomberg.com/subscriptions/oddlots?in_source=oddlotspodcast] See omnystudio.com/listener [https://omnystudio.com/listener] for privacy information.