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The Psychology of Power | Michael Ovitz

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Michael Ovitz co-founded CAA and helped reshape Hollywood, then took the same playbook into tech investing and advising founders. In this conversation, he breaks down the operating rules that kept CAA from losing clients, and the personal disciplines that...

Highlights

Michael Ovitz, co-founder of CAA and later a tech investor and advisor, shares hard-won insights from decades at the intersection of creativity, power, and leadership—grounded in integrity, discipline, and relentless learning.
00:00
I entered business to win, not for popularity
01:02
Knowledge is power, and it can work for or against people
06:54
Paul Newman said he didn't believe the praise at first, but after a while, it started to affect him
15:06
They took his son Chris and Barry to Sundance, where Bob and Barry hit it off
16:42
Fighting to go to work prevents one from performing to their potential
18:30
Granola is an AI-powered notepad for meetings that transcribes and turns rough notes into clear ones
25:08
At the height of CAA, they had 70% of the market
26:52
Power lists in the entertainment business are nonsense as power is ephemeral
30:33
Ben Horowitz and Marc Andreessen pointed out key similarities between tech and entertainment industries in 1999
36:28
Fearlessness is a tool—not innate courage—but cultivated through independence and loyalty
46:59
He had to fire 800 people and was embarrassed by his business collapse
47:49
Failure is a badge of honor in American society
52:50
Patrick Collison of Stripe invited the speaker to lunch to discuss mistakes in the speaker's book
57:52
Woke culture, which initially had merit, has been taken too far and contributed to the decline of the Hollywood content business
1:10:31
Those running for mayor, governor, or president should have business experience
1:14:14
Building momentum is like a train leaving the station
1:17:45
Momentum is the most crucial thing in everything we do
1:21:36
Pivoted business to protect intellectual property after learning about watermarking technology from Stanford AI professor
1:24:44
The Premier League contacted the speaker due to 750,000 illegal downloads per game and the ease of bypassing payment on Google
1:26:36
Trust is the most important thing between people, especially in business
1:32:51
Success is defined at the Thanksgiving dinner table

Chapters

Introduction
00:00
Learning Machine
00:58
You Don't Know Everything
03:41
How People Go Wrong
08:17
Don’t Fight Your Job
16:42
Managing Relationships
18:28
Hiring Top Performers
20:46
Never Get High on Your Own Supply
26:47
Identifying Greatness
30:27
Meeting Marc Andreessen
33:28
On Failure
43:42
The Smartest Person I Ever Met
47:48
The Genius of Patrick Collison
52:49
A Good Idea Taken Too Far
57:51
Information Consumption
1:01:30
Business Education Curriculum
1:14:13
Momentum
1:16:28
Packaging
1:18:16
What Would You Tell Your Younger Self?
1:24:43
The Importance of Trust
1:26:30
What is Success For You?
1:29:15

Transcript

Michael Ovitz: I didn't go into business to win a popularity contest. I went into business to win. You know, when Michael Crichton gave me the book of Jurassic Park, I put the right director with it, Steven Spielberg. There was no second choice. Shane Par...