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#498 – Anthony Kaldellis: Roman Empire, Byzantine Empire, Rise & Fall of Empires

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Anthony Kaldellis is a historian of the Roman Empire and author of “The New Roman Empire”, a comprehensive history of the Byzantine Empire (Eastern Roman Empire). Thank you for listening ❤ Check out our sponsors: https://lexfridman.com/sponsors/ep498-sc [https://lexfridman.com/sponsors/ep498-sc] See below for timestamps, transcript, and to give feedback, submit questions, contact Lex, etc. Transcript: https://lexfridman.com/anthony-kaldellis-transcript [https://lexfridman.com/anthony-kaldellis-transcript] CONTACT LEX: Feedback – give feedback to Lex: https://lexfridman.com/survey [https://lexfridman.com/survey] AMA – submit questions, videos or call-in: https://lexfridman.com/ama [https://lexfridman.com/ama] Hiring – join our team: https://lexfridman.com/hiring [https://lexfridman.com/hiring] Other – other ways to get in touch: https://lexfridman.com/contact [https://lexfridman.com/contact] EPISODE LINKS: Anthony’s Books: https://amzn.to/49AX7Q1 [https://amzn.to/49AX7Q1] Anthony’s Publications: https://kaldellispublications.weebly.com [https://kaldellispublications.weebly.com] Anthony’s University of Chicago page: https://classics.uchicago.edu/people/anthony-kaldellis [https://classics.uchicago.edu/people/anthony-kaldellis] The New Roman Empire (book): https://amzn.to/3PTFTqk [https://amzn.to/3PTFTqk] Streams of Gold (book): https://amzn.to/4fgRMRq [https://amzn.to/4fgRMRq] Byzantium & Friends Podcast: https://byzantiumandfriends.podbean.com/ [https://byzantiumandfriends.podbean.com/] The History of Byzantium Podcast: https://thehistoryofbyzantium.com/ [https://thehistoryofbyzantium.com/] SPONSORS: To support this podcast, check out our sponsors & get discounts: Upwork: Platform for hiring freelancers. Go to https://upwork.com/lex [https://lexfridman.com/s/upwork-ep498-sc] Fin: AI agent for customer service. Go to https://fin.ai/lex [https://lexfridman.com/s/fin-ep498-sc] BetterHelp: Online therapy and counseling. Go to https://betterhelp.com/lex [https://lexfridman.com/s/betterhelp-ep498-sc] LMNT: Zero-sugar electrolyte drink mix. Go to https://drinkLMNT.com/lex [https://lexfridman.com/s/lmnt-ep498-sc] Shopify: Sell stuff online. Go to https://shopify.com/lex [https://lexfridman.com/s/shopify-ep498-sc] Perplexity: AI-powered answer engine. Go to https://perplexity.ai/ [https://lexfridman.com/s/perplexity-ep498-sc] OUTLINE: (00:00) – Introduction (00:11) – Sponsors, Comments, and Reflections (08:45) – The Roman Empire and the Byzantine Empire (12:42) – 2,200 Years of Roman History (33:06) – Power, violence, and civil war (54:20) – Edict of Caracalla (1:07:17) – Crisis of the Third Century (1:21:45) – Constantine and the new Roman Empire (1:33:46) – Christianity in the Roman Empire (1:59:14) – Fall of the Western Roman Empire (2:12:11) – Eunuchs, Taxes, and Power (2:37:17) – Emperor Justinian and wars of conquest (2:54:19) – The Arab conquests (3:13:55) – Why the Roman empire survived so long (3:40:01) – Lessons from history PODCAST LINKS: – Podcast Website: https://lexfridman.com/podcast [https://lexfridman.com/podcast] – Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2lwqZIr [https://apple.co/2lwqZIr] – Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8 [https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8] – RSS: https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/ [https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/] – Podcast Playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLrAXtmErZgOdP_8GztsuKi9nrraNbKKp4 [https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLrAXtmErZgOdP_8GztsuKi9nrraNbKKp4] – Clips Channel: https://www.youtube.com/lexclips [https://www.youtube.com/lexclips]

Highlights

Historian Anthony Kaldellis discusses the 2,200-year history of the Roman Empire, arguing that the Byzantine Empire was a direct continuation of Rome. He explores the empire's political structure, its resilience, and the lessons it offers for modern societies.
00:00
Anthony Kaldellis, a historian of the Eastern Roman Empire
00:14
Men think about the Roman Empire.
08:44
The Byzantine Empire was simply the Roman Empire.
28:42
The empire underwent continuous, cumulative change over 2,200 years.
42:34
46% of Byzantine emperors were overthrown violently.
54:17
The Edict of Caracalla marked a significant turning point.
1:13:14
Diocletian's reforms created a lasting bureaucratic and tax system
1:31:02
Constantine is ranked as the top Byzantine emperor for his world-changing decisions.
1:33:43
Christianity was co-opted by the existing empire.
2:08:51
Constantinople became the heart of the Roman world while Rome became a backwater.
2:33:57
The army was almost never used for internal social control.
2:37:12
Ability over social class defined his rule.
3:10:24
Iconoclasm was an elite controversy involving only a few hundred people.
3:17:58
No state could survive three simultaneous attacks
3:52:34
Consciousness may remain uniquely human

Chapters

Introduction
00:00
Sponsors, Comments, and Reflections
00:11
The Roman Empire and the Byzantine Empire
08:44
2,200 Years of Roman History
12:42
Power, violence, and civil war
33:04
Edict of Caracalla
54:17
Crisis of the Third Century
1:07:13
Constantine and the new Roman Empire
1:21:40
Christianity in the Roman Empire
1:33:41
Fall of the Western Roman Empire
1:59:07
Eunuchs, Taxes, and Power
2:12:03
Emperor Justinian and wars of conquest
2:37:08
The Arab conquests
2:54:09
Why the Roman empire survived so long
3:13:43
Lessons from history
3:39:48

Transcript

Lex Fridman: The following is a conversation with Anthony Kaldellis, a historian of the Eastern Roman Empire, also known as the Byzantine Empire. And now a quick few-second mention of each sponsor. Check them out in the description at lexfridman.com slash ...