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The Steve Ballmer Interview

Acquired

2025/06/02
Acquired

Acquired

2025/06/02
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We sit down with Steve Ballmer, the legendary former Microsoft CEO and owner of the LA Clippers, for an epic conversation covering his 34 years at Microsoft. Steve listened to our Microsoft episodes and had some thoughts to share — and boy, did he deliver. Steve takes us point-by-point through the original IBM DOS deal that started everything, how he built Microsoft's enterprise business from scratch, and offers his candid reflections on missing mobile and search. We also cover the story behind “developers, developers, developers”, the complexities of his relationship with Bill Gates (including a year where they didn't speak), and why he ultimately decided to step down as CEO. Plus, we learn why Steve has held onto his Microsoft stock through it all — giving him arguably the best investment track record in the world over the last 10 years with his net worth growing from $20B to $130B since leaving. And of course, we couldn't resist also talking about his other passion: the Clippers and Intuit Dome. Hit play and get ready to experience the patented Steve Ballmer energy and fun on full display! Sponsors: Rippling: https://bit.ly/acquiredrippling [https://bit.ly/acquiredrippling] Statsig: https://bit.ly/acquiredstatsig25 [https://bit.ly/acquiredstatsig25] Odd Lots: https://bit.ly/acquiredoddlots [https://bit.ly/acquiredoddlots] ServiceNow: https://bit.ly/acquiredsn [https://bit.ly/acquiredsn] Links: * Steve's PowerPoint Slides [https://cdn.prod.website-files.com/5c29380b1110ec701f03aa33/684340737aa81b632cbd51e4_acquired.pptx] * Join us July 15 at Radio City! [http://acquired.fm/nyc] More Acquired! * Get email updates [https://www.acquired.fm/email] with hints on next episode and follow-ups from recent episodes * Join the Slack [http://acquired.fm/slack] * Subscribe to ACQ2 [https://pod.link/acquiredlp] * Merch Store [https://www.acquired.fm/store]! © Copyright 2015-2025 ACQ, LLC ‍Note: Acquired hosts and guests may hold assets discussed in this episode. This podcast is not investment advice, and is intended for informational and entertainment purposes only. You should do your own research and make your own independent decisions when considering any financial transactions.

Highlights

In this podcast, Steve Ballmer, the former CEO of Microsoft and current owner of the LA Clippers, dives into his experiences over 34 years at Microsoft. He shares insights on pivotal decisions, including the IBM DOS deal, building Microsoft's enterprise business, and reflections on missed opportunities in mobile and search. Ballmer also discusses his relationship with Bill Gates, his decision to step down as CEO, and his continued loyalty to Microsoft stock. Additionally, he explores his passion for the LA Clippers and the innovative Intuit Dome.
09:13
Microsoft referred IBM to Gary Kildall, then bought QDOS for $49,000.
33:13
Bill Gates was passionate about apps and what Windows could offer.
41:57
Enterprise agreements were designed to provide simpler administration, recurring revenue, and upgrades.
51:08
Apps can be extended; a company shouldn't see itself as only a platform company.
1:03:01
A successful company must consciously decide when to avoid extending its existing business into a new paradigm.
1:20:32
Microsoft decided to prioritize platform as a service to leverage its strong Windows developer ecosystem.
1:37:42
Vercel introduces V0, an AI-powered web developer.
1:40:34
Ballmer's biggest win was establishing the enterprise business.
1:58:08
They admit to doing too many things and being over - confident about Windows.
2:12:58
Ballmer thought it was a good time to step down as the cloud was emerging.
2:24:18
Charlie Munger questioned why Steve Ballmer held onto Microsoft stock while others didn't.
2:52:46
The Intuit Dome was designed for hardcore basketball fans and aims to make games more intense for visiting teams.

Chapters

How Microsoft Became an Enterprise Powerhouse
00:00
The Groundbreaking IBM DOS Deal
09:13
Building Microsoft's Enterprise Sales Strategy
30:23
Driving Growth Through Enterprise Agreements
38:51
Navigating Platforms and First-Party Apps
51:08
Overcoming Challenges in Mobile and Search
1:00:11
Microsoft's Cloud Evolution and Lessons Learned
1:14:47
Exploring Microsoft's Core Business Segments
1:29:40
Leadership Trials During Ballmer's Tenure
1:40:34
Reflecting on Key Decisions and Disagreements
1:55:08
Reevaluating Microsoft's Approach to Mobile
2:07:05
Investment Insights and Loyalty to Microsoft Stock
2:18:43
Parallels Between Tech Leadership and Basketball Team Management
2:30:09

Transcript

Ben Gilbert: All right, so David, Steve gave us the signed Clippers jersey with the name Acquired on it. There's only one jersey. What are we going to do about this? David Rosenthal: Should we rock, paper, scissors for it? Well, you know what? No, no. You...