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How 80,000 companies build with AI: products as organisms, the death of org charts, and why agents will outnumber employees by 2026 | Asha Sharma (CVP of AI Platform at Microsoft)

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How 80,000 companies build with AI: products as organisms, the death of org charts, and why agents will outnumber employees by 2026 | Asha Sharma (CVP of AI Platform at Microsoft)

Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth

2025/08/28
Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth

Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth

2025/08/28
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Asha Sharma leads AI product strategy at Microsoft, where she works with thousands of companies building AI products and has unique visibility into what’s working (and what’s not) across more than 15,000 startups and enterprises. Before Microsoft, Asha was...

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Asha Sharma, a seasoned leader in AI and product strategy at Microsoft, shares her insights on the transformative impact of artificial intelligence across industries. With deep experience spanning Meta, Instacart, and now Microsoft’s AI initiatives, she offers a unique perspective on how companies are redefining product development, organizational structure, and user interaction in the age of AI agents.
04:21
Products are now living organisms that improve through interactions.
06:21
AI models are becoming organisms that evolve with user interaction and feedback.
09:11
Successful AI adoption requires company-wide fluency and strategic application
12:01
Everyone should focus on the 'loop' rather than 'lane'.
14:16
The 'loop, not the lane' principle redefines AI development by treating products as evolving organisms shaped by continuous user feedback and data refinement.
16:24
Software companies will become agent companies
19:34
The marginal cost of good output will near zero with AI agents
26:25
Peter Yang can't imagine creating strategy docs without AI
33:51
15,000 customers are building agents on the platform with millions running in the cloud
35:38
The key to a great product is its infrastructure and platform, not the number of features.
39:32
Optimism is a renewable resource in leadership
42:12
AI at Stanford is already being used to review tumors, improving diagnostic accuracy and patient outcomes.
44:31
Post-training offers better economic leverage and customization for models
51:54
Taekwondo is more mental than physical, like work.

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Introduction to Asha Sharma
00:00
From “product as artifact” to “product as organism”
04:18
The rise of post-training and the future of AI product development
06:20
Successful AI companies: patterns and pitfalls
09:10
The evolution of full-stack builders
12:01
“The loop, not the lane”—the new organizing principle
14:15
The future of user interfaces: from GUI to code-native
16:24
The rise of the agentic society
19:34
The “work chart” vs. the “org chart”
22:58
How Microsoft is using agents
26:24
Planning and strategy in the AI landscape
28:23
The importance of platform fundamentals
35:38
Lessons from industry giants
39:31
What’s driving Asha
42:10
Reinforcement learning (RL) and optimization loops
44:30
Lightning round and final thoughts
49:19

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Lenny Rachitsky: You said that we're just starting to scratch the surface of what an agentic society actually looks like. Asha Sharma: We're approaching this world in which the marginal cost of the good output is approaching zero. We're going to see expon...