Building an AI Physicist: ChatGPT Co-Creator’s Next Venture
The a16z Show
2025/09/30
Building an AI Physicist: ChatGPT Co-Creator’s Next Venture
Building an AI Physicist: ChatGPT Co-Creator’s Next Venture

The a16z Show
2025/09/30
The pursuit of scientific breakthroughs has long been constrained by the pace of experimentation and theoretical exploration. Now, a new wave of AI-driven research is emerging—one that doesn't just analyze data but actively participates in discovery. In this conversation, two pioneers from leading AI labs unveil their vision for a system that learns not from text alone, but from the physical world itself.
Liam Fedus and Ekin Dogus Cubuk, co-founders of Periodic Labs, discuss their mission to automate scientific discovery by grounding large language models in real-world physics and chemistry experiments. They emphasize using experimental outcomes as training signals, enabling AI to learn from direct physical feedback. The team targets high-temperature superconductivity as a grand challenge, while building near-term tools like AI co-pilots for scientists. Success depends on integrating noisy experimental data, including negative results, and combining expertise across AI, materials science, and quantum mechanics. Mid-training techniques allow models to absorb new scientific knowledge dynamically, and geometric reasoning is seen as essential for understanding physical systems. To accelerate progress, Periodic Labs is fostering deep collaborations with academic researchers through advisory boards and grants, aiming to bridge the gap between machine learning and hard science innovation.
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The next frontier in AI is physics, not just logic or math.
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Teaching LLMs scientific inquiry through real quantum-level experiments is essential to reduce epistemic uncertainty.
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A model trained on coding data won't cure cancer without relevant scientific data
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High-temperature superconductivity unites physicists and offers profound technical and philosophical value.
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A great researcher at Periodic Labs is highly mission-driven, focused on accelerating science.
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Models are currently poor at scientific analysis but can improve through mid-training and data integration.
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Periodic Labs is launching a grant program to support academic research in LLMs and materials discovery.