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20VC: OpenAI and Anthropic Will Build Their Own Chips | NVIDIA Will Be Worth $10TRN | How to Solve the Energy Required for AI... Nuclear | Why China is Behind the US in the Race for AGI with Jonathan Ross, Groq Founder

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20VC: OpenAI and Anthropic Will Build Their Own Chips | NVIDIA Will Be Worth $10TRN | How to Solve the Energy Required for AI... Nuclear | Why China is Behind the US in the Race for AGI with Jonathan Ross, Groq Founder

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch

2025/09/29
The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch

2025/09/29
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Jonathan Ross is the Founder & CEO of Groq, the AI chip company redefining inference at scale. Under his leadership, Groq has raised over $3B from top investors. The company has reached a valuation of nearly $7B, positioning itself as one of NVIDIA's most ...

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The future of artificial intelligence is being shaped not just by algorithms and data, but by who controls the underlying compute infrastructure. As AI models grow more powerful, the race for faster chips, cheaper energy, and scalable systems has become central to global technological leadership. This conversation explores the economic, geopolitical, and engineering forces defining the next era of AI innovation.
07:33
Vibe Coding deployed a feature in four hours with no human-written code
15:18
NVIDIA has a monopsony on HBM, limiting GPU production capacity
19:56
Older chips like H100s remain profitable to operate despite inefficiency due to soaring compute demand.
32:24
Both nuclear and renewables are efficient and cost-effective for powering AI
41:25
Doubling compute can double AI users and improve model quality
42:51
AI will cause massive labor shortages due to job growth outpacing workforce availability
43:19
AI reduces costs and drives workforce opt-outs due to deflationary pressures
45:51
Everyone will need to code in various jobs, making it as common as reading and writing.
47:15
Keep margins low to build customer trust and brand equity while ensuring cash flow through volume
54:54
The biggest problem in AI is that good engineers can easily raise large amounts of money to start their own companies
1:01:45
Raised $750 million at a nearly $7 billion valuation, initially targeting only $300 million.
1:03:58
NVIDIA will be worth $10 trillion in five years

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The Future of AI and Compute
00:00
Why the Hyperscalers Have to Keep Spending Recklessly on AI
05:07
Why OpenAI and Anthropic Will Have to Build Their Own Chips
12:49
OpenAI and Anthropic Will be $5BN Companies: The Bull Case
19:47
Why China is Behind the US in AI and Deepseek is More Expensive to Run
29:50
How Europe Could Compete in AI and Why the US is More Risk Averse Than Europe
33:55
Why AI Will Lead to Too Many Not Too Few Jobs
42:51
Deflationary Pressures and New Job Markets
43:19
The Future of Vibe Coding
45:51
Why AI Companies Should Strive to Have Low Margins
47:14
Why We Have to Have Nuclear Energy and How to Bring it Back
49:31
How Permits are Ruining the Potential of AI
56:55
Why OpenAI and Anthropic are so Undervalued
1:03:58
Quickfire: Biggest Fear, Nvidia: $10TRN, Zuck Buying AI: Work or Not
1:16:53

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Jonathan Ross: The countries that control compute will control AI, and you cannot have compute without energy. And now we're going to be able to add more labor to the economy by producing more compute and better AI. That has never happened in the history o...