Head of Growth (Anthropic): “Claude is growing itself at this point” | Amol Avasare
Head of Growth (Anthropic): “Claude is growing itself at this point” | Amol Avasare
Head of Growth (Anthropic): “Claude is growing itself at this point” | Amol Avasare
Amol Avasare, Head of Growth at Anthropic, shares hard-won insights from leading one of the most extraordinary growth runs in tech history—scaling from $1B to over $19B in ARR in just 14 months—while navigating personal adversity, redefining growth infrastructure, and pioneering AI-native operating systems.
Amol reveals how Anthropic’s growth engine is built on big-bet prioritization (70/30 toward high-impact initiatives), not micro-optimizations, and how activation—not acquisition—is the highest-leverage challenge in AI, given the 'capability overhang' between model advances and user understanding. He details CASH, their internal Claude-powered system that automates hypothesis generation, UI tweaks, and experiment analysis—freeing humans for alignment and strategy. As AI supercharges engineering productivity, Amol argues for *more* PMs—not fewer—to guide teams, deepen user insight, and coach engineers in product thinking. Strategic friction, not seamless onboarding, drives better activation, as seen at Mercury and Anthropic. His journey—from cold-emailing Mike Krieger to rebuilding after a traumatic brain injury—underscores resilience, mission discipline, and the importance of aligning growth with safety and long-term values. Culture, transparency via 'notebook channels,' and AI-augmented routines (e.g., auto-analyzing 25 charts daily) further enable scale without drift.
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Anthropic grew from $1 billion to over $19 billion in ARR in 14 months
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Amol landed his role at Anthropic by cold-emailing the CPO before there was even a growth team
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The 19-billion figure is outdated, and internally, log-linear charts are preferred as the growth is so rapid
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It's the hardest job I've had
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About 70% of time is spent on 'success disasters' dealing with challenges from rapid growth
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Activation, especially early product experience, is crucial for long-term retention, and its importance has grown exponentially
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They focused on quality rather than metrics, which led to a significant uplift in onboarding completion
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Adding the right friction can lead to higher conversion and funnel completion
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Anthropic's growth team indexes more toward larger swings, with a ratio of around 70/30 or 50/50 in favor of bigger bets.
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A 1% win is significant at Anthropic's scale, but the focus is on exponential growth rather than micro-optimizations
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A difficult meeting with the head of design revealed that aligning people remains hard—even with AGI
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AI can generate, implement, and test growth ideas with human approval
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A two-week project can be handled without a PM
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The best use of PMs' time depends on the company's situation: ship features when engineers are scarce, but guide and up-level when engineers are abundant
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Most shipped products lack a PRD because PRDs are outdated and add unnecessary bureaucracy
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Claude proactively looking at data can reduce false positive and negative rates, giving more confidence
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AI can reduce cross-functional coordination toil, which was not possible six months ago
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Anthropic had a Claude chatbot before ChatGPT but didn't launch it for safety reasons
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Anthropic delayed Claude's release due to safety risks, prioritizing public benefit over commercial timing
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One should identify their competitive advantages and double-down on them, ignoring weaknesses
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Anthropic's culture is its secret sauce, created by leadership's investment and characterized by deep mission alignment and transparency
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The experience was painful but taught him valuable skills that made his current career possible
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True freedom is being content when not getting what you want
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A beaded pillow used in a Japanese hotel can naturally adjust height while sleeping
