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Dara Khosrowshahi - Uber's Bet on AVs, AI, and Building a Super-App - [Invest Like the Best, EP.476]

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Dara Khosrowshahi - Uber's Bet on AVs, AI, and Building a Super-App - [Invest Like the Best, EP.476]

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy

15 HOURS AGO
Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy

15 HOURS AGO
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My guest today is Dara Khosrowshahi, the CEO of Uber. Before Uber, Dara ran Expedia for thirteen years. We start with why he took this job in 2017, and a big part of that story is Daniel Ek, who told him that life is not about happiness, it is about impact...

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In this episode, Uber CEO Dara Khosrowshahi discusses his journey from leading Expedia to taking the helm at Uber during a period of intense turmoil. He shares the pivotal advice from Spotify's Daniel Ek that convinced him to take the role, and how his family's experience as immigrants from Iran shaped his approach to pressure and leadership. The conversation centers on Uber's strategy for the future, particularly its role as a demand aggregator in the age of autonomous vehicles and physical AI.
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Dara Khosrowshahi, CEO of Uber
02:31
Prioritize impact over happiness
03:37
Life is about impact, not happiness.
06:58
Break down problems into components to make chaos manageable
09:24
Separate work from personal identity
11:23
He attributes his competitive nature to his Iranian immigrant background.
12:53
Overprotecting children is a disservice.
17:05
Balance AI costs with headcount growth
21:24
Uber can win as a demand aggregator in AV space
25:55
Magical experiences quickly become normal.
27:43
The biggest risk is public skepticism toward AI and AV technology
32:09
AVs will be more efficient than human drivers
35:14
Real scale in 2-5 years for food and groceries
36:28
Middle East moves fast with supportive regulators
37:44
13% of Eats bookings come from the mobility app.
42:25
Uber One loses money initially but becomes profitable over time
46:59
Integrating ride-hailing, flights, and hotel check-in
50:46
Marketing now creates narratives around services
52:59
Inbound interactions will shift to unstructured, AI-driven conversations
54:09
Get unfiltered truth directly from the source.
59:18
Companies comfortable with change will adapt, while those rigid in their ways will struggle.
1:03:08
Success makes you talk more and listen less.
1:04:18
Hastings' thinking is logical yet gambler-like.
1:05:50
She accepted me for who I am.

Chapters

Welcome to Invest Like The Best
00:00
Intro to Dara Khosrowshahi
02:29
How Daniel Ek Convinced Dara to Take the Uber Job
03:37
Bringing Order to Chaos
06:54
Managing Stress as a Leader
09:20
The Chip on His Shoulder
11:22
Parenting Lessons
12:53
Mandate for AI Adoption
17:01
Uber's Role in Physical AI
21:21
Winning the AV Demand Race
22:48
Partnering vs. Competing with Waymo
27:41
AV Success Unlocks New Markets
32:05
Why Drones Haven't Arrived Yet
35:09
Regional AV Rollout Differences
36:27
Uber Eats International Winning Formula
37:35
Key to Aggregating Supply Well
39:44
Adding Hotels to Uber Platform
44:34
Lessons in Marketing at Scale
50:46
Apps vs. AI Agents in Seven Years
52:59
What Dara Learned from Barry Diller
54:08
What Dara Learned from Allen & Co
56:52
Buybacks vs. Growth Investing
1:00:09
Lessons from Reed Hastings
1:04:17
The Kindest Thing
1:05:49

Transcript

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