In this conversation, I speak to William Morgan and Sylvan Rackham, the Co-Founders of Restless Egg [www.restlessegg.com], an incubator for Artist Founders, about the intersection of art, technology, and innovation. They discuss the concept of the 'artist founder', the challenges faced by creative technologists, and the need for a supportive infrastructure to foster their ideas. The conversation explores the role of institutions, funding sources, and the future of technology, particularly in relation to AI. They emphasize the importance of agency in technology and the potential for artist founders to create meaningful experiences that go beyond mere productivity enhancements. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Restless Egg 01:21 Artist founders 04:18 Discovering the Community of Creators 10:10 Key Players in the Artist Founder Ecosystem 14:37 The Role of Philosophy and Technology 20:31 Bridging Art and Technology 25:32 Defining the Artist Founder 28:24 The Future of AI and Experience 29:20 The Role of Artist Founders in E-commerce 32:41 Funding the Creative Frontier 36:58 The Shift in Investment Perspectives 41:03 The Future of Technology and Agency 44:29 AI: Tool or Evolutionary Break? 51:45 The Playful Nature of Innovation 58:59 Empowering Agency Through Technology Where you can hear more from William and Sylvan www.restlessegg.com [www.restlessegg.com] William's substack [https://artistfounder.substack.com/] Some of the organisations mentioned: * Antikythera [https://antikythera.org/] * Restless Egg [www.restlessegg.com] * Strelka [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strelka_Institute] * Medialab [https://www.medialab-matadero.es/en] Some of the people mentioned: * Benjamin Bratton [https://bratton.info/] * Refik Anadol [https://refikanadol.com/] * Daisy Ginsberg [https://www.daisyginsberg.com/] * Ian Cheng [https://iancheng.com/] Other resources referenced: * Sam Altman blog post about ideas people [https://blog.samaltman.com/] * My post about Creative Outsiders [https://theuncommonfounder.beehiiv.com/p/the-wise-founder-12] * A piece written by friend and collaborator, Danya Shults [https://danyashults.substack.com/p/theres-a-certain-kind-of-person] * An artificial history of natural intelligence [https://www.worldofbooks.com/en-gb/products/artificial-history-of-natural-intelligence-book-david-w-bates-9780226832104?sku=NGR9780226832104&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=19658856844&gbraid=0AAAAADZzAIAh0mvZNxS5jj_61KWJJF8ty&gclid=Cj0KCQjw18bEBhCBARIsAKuAFEZrprvuF4579jXW1EW4NLWgoCsEvhaY9wN9qS9iSf5LYVKY_taTcrkaAvm0EALw_wcB]