Within the AI industry, even the builders of it have been very anxious about the technology. They've talked for years about its potential to create destabilizing job losses. They even spend a lot of time thinking about rogue AI that could lead to human extinction. But for all their anxiety, they missed the thing that's become the most publicly salient: how upset people would be about building data centers. Part of this was understandable. Data center construction has been happening for a long time in America, and it used to be relatively uncontroversial. In fact, cities and states would often design their tax code to incentivize data center construction. Now there's this complete 180. On this episode, we speak with independent writer and Substacker Jasmine Sun, who recently traveled to Wisconsin and Michigan for some on-the-ground reporting about the communities and activists trying to stop data center development. She explains what the pushback is really all about, what it represents, and what future developers will have to do in order to be welcomed in. Come see Odd Lots live in Los Angeles [https://events.bloombergevents.com/event/ODDLOTSLA/summary], get your tickets now. Read more: Anthropic-Tied Data Center Inks $1.3 Billion Private Credit Loan [https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-08-19/anthropic-tied-data-center-inks-1-3-billion-private-credit-loan?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=podcast&utm_campaign=odd_lots&utm_content=article] Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro to Limit New Data Centers [https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-08-18/pennsylvania-governor-shapiro-puts-guardrails-on-data-centers?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=podcast&utm_campaign=odd_lots&utm_content=article] Only Bloomberg - Business News, Stock Markets, Finance, Breaking & World News [http://bloomberg.com/] subscribers can get the Odd Lots newsletter in their inbox each week, plus unlimited access to the site and app. Subscribe at  bloomberg.com/subscriptions/oddlots [https://www.bloomberg.com/subscriptions/oddlots?in_source=oddlotspodcast] Subscribe to the Odd Lots Newsletter [http://bloomberg.com/subscriptions/oddlots] Join the conversation: discord.gg/oddlots [https://discord.gg/oddlots] See omnystudio.com/listener [https://omnystudio.com/listener] for privacy information.