He said yes to an IT job. He ended up enslaved in a scam compound.
He said yes to an IT job. He ended up enslaved in a scam compound.
He said yes to an IT job. He ended up enslaved in a scam compound.
Shownote
Shownote
Last June, journalist Andy Greenberg received an anonymous email from someone
claiming to be trapped inside a scam compound in Southeast Asia. The source,
using the pseudonym Red Bull, said he had access to a trove of internal
materials exposing the inner workings of the criminal operation — and that he
was willing to risk his life to share them. Greenberg has now published Red
Bull’s story in Wired [https://apple.news/ALqmq5Xa-RF2PVUggdFzMMA]. He joins
Apple News In Conversation guest host Sam Sanders
[https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-sam-sanders-show/id1771084688] to
discuss what he uncovered about the shadowy world of global scam compounds, and
what happened when Red Bull tried to escape.
Highlights
Highlights
This episode follows journalist Andy Greenberg’s extraordinary collaboration with a whistleblower who risked everything to expose the inner workings of a transnational scam compound — and the harrowing reality of those trapped inside.
Chapters
Chapters
How Red Bull got trapped — and why he stayed to document it
00:00What Greenberg could — and couldn’t — do to help from afar
12:27The forged police document, the beating, and the shift to remote rescue
17:42Escaping barefoot across five countries — and living with the guilt
20:21Why U.S. anti-trafficking efforts keep missing the real victims
26:06Why Muzahir shared his real name — and what that cost him
29:22Transcript
Transcript
Speaker 3: This is In Conversation from Apple News. I'm Sam Sanders, in for Shumita Basu. Today, inside the dark world of foreign scam compounds. One evening last June, journalist Andy Greenberg was on the roof of his apartment building, playing with his k...
