Elif Shafak & Robert Macfarlane: Two Novelists Have an Epic Conversation | How I Write
How I Write
4 DAYS AGO
Elif Shafak & Robert Macfarlane: Two Novelists Have an Epic Conversation | How I Write
Elif Shafak & Robert Macfarlane: Two Novelists Have an Epic Conversation | How I Write

How I Write
4 DAYS AGO
This conversation explores writing as a way of paying closer attention to the world, moving between literature, nature, memory, and the responsibilities of artistic work.
The discussion begins with the limits of language and the ways travel, birds, mountains, and other encounters with the natural world shape a writer’s attention. Slowing down and temporarily setting aside the self can reveal overlooked details and create greater empathy between people. The ancient story of Gilgamesh becomes a lens for understanding grief, failure, mortality, friendship, and the need to rebuild a living relationship with nature. The speakers then examine how rhythm, sound, movement, intuition, and wonder influence the writing process, even when drafting feels disorganized or anxious. Their reflections turn to rivers, seals, cyclical time, and animist perspectives, showing how nature can unsettle conventional boundaries between reality, imagination, memory, and history. In discussing Cyprus, they consider how art and the natural world can complicate inherited political narratives. The conversation concludes by presenting literature as both companionship and ethical responsibility: writers should cultivate wonder, draw insight from multiple disciplines, remain connected to books, and honestly ask whether their work responds to the crises of the present and future.
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Attention dissolves the boundary between self and other.
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Stories carry knowledge across generations
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Wonder often begins with mistaken explanations.
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Nature can unsettle inherited political memories
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Writing must answer the crises of its time