How the head of Obsidian went from superfan to CEO
Decoder with Nilay Patel
2025/08/18
How the head of Obsidian went from superfan to CEO
How the head of Obsidian went from superfan to CEO

Decoder with Nilay Patel
2025/08/18
In this episode, Casey Newton sits down with Steph Ango, the CEO of Obsidian, a powerful yet minimalist note-taking app that’s gaining traction as a digital 'second brain.' Unlike many traditional software executives, Steph didn’t come from a corporate background—he was once a passionate member of the Obsidian community before stepping into the CEO role. The conversation dives into how Obsidian’s Markdown-based, locally stored system sets it apart in the crowded productivity app space, and how its open, user-driven philosophy continues to shape its evolution.
Steph Ango shares his unique journey from being a community contributor to leading Obsidian as its CEO. He emphasizes the app’s local-first design, plugin-based flexibility, and strong focus on user privacy. Obsidian’s growing popularity, especially among developers and creative thinkers, is attributed to its ability to help users connect ideas and build knowledge networks. The discussion contrasts Obsidian with cloud-centric tools like Notion, highlighting its lean team and community-driven development model. Revenue comes from sync services and premium features, while AI integration remains minimal to protect user data. Looking ahead, Obsidian is exploring new features like Bases to enhance metadata organization and expand its utility for complex projects.
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Many Obsidian blog essays originated from ideas in the app, like 'Pain is Information'
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Obsidian's plugin system enables users to customize the app to their needs
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Obsidian stores data locally as Markdown files, ensuring user ownership and security
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Productivity tools may substitute for thinking and use anti-patterns for engagement
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Obsidian has been profitable since day one, about five years.
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Bases allows users to store metadata in notes and visualize them in different views.