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#173- Jason Oakley: The Bite

In this episode, renowned chef Jason Oakley shares his journey from working in Michelin-starred restaurants to opening Sub Standard, a beloved sandwich shop in Shanghai. His experiences highlight the evolution of Western cuisine in China and the challenges faced by restaurateurs in adapting to local tastes and market dynamics.
Jason Oakley's career transition reflects the changing food landscape in Shanghai. Initially known for his fiery demeanor, becoming a father softened him, leading to the creation of Sub Standard—a venture born out of necessity for quality sandwiches. Despite challenges like high operational costs and delivery fees, Oakley's focus on authenticity has set him apart. The podcast critiques high-end dining, questioning Michelin ratings and overpriced meals, while exploring the rise of food delivery platforms and their impact on businesses. Winter brings new opportunities with soup sales, but maintaining authenticity is key for success in Western cuisine. The conversation also delves into cultural exchanges in food, comparing Chinese interpretations of Western dishes to American-Chinese cuisine. Finally, personal reflections on parenting, shopping habits, and even mosquito troubles add a human touch to Oakley's professional insights.
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If not a chef, I'd be a photographer.
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Making a good sandwich requires more than just ingredients; it demands passion and understanding.
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Spent a lot of money without satisfaction, ended up at Hooters.
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Sherpas failed due to long delivery times and lack of budget support after being sold.
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Fierce competition demands unique marketing strategies like secret menus and KOL partnerships.
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Exposure to good food is key to changing perceptions about Western cuisine.
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Authentic Italian pizza lacks flavor compared to American pizza.
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Chefs support each other, especially at food festivals.
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Engaging children in conversations is crucial in the digital age.
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Mosquitoes can be a form of torture as they wake you up.