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From Iran to Uber CEO | Nikhil Kamath x Dara Khosrowshahi | People by WTF | Ep. 14

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From Iran to Uber CEO | Nikhil Kamath x Dara Khosrowshahi | People by WTF | Ep. 14

People by WTF

2025/08/25
People by WTF

People by WTF

2025/08/25
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Building the next Uber in India? Dara shares lessons on competition, EVs, quick commerce, and how he helped build Uber through chaos. Timestamps: 00:00 - Intro 01:22 - Dara’s visits to India 01:58 - Uber’s Indian competitors 04:42 - Growing up i...

Highlights

In this insightful conversation, Dara Khosrowshahi reflects on his journey from Iran to leading one of the world’s most influential tech platforms, offering a rare look into the values, decisions, and global dynamics that have shaped Uber’s evolution.
01:58
Rapido's subscription model takes zero commission after the fee, allowing drivers to earn more.
08:56
Religion has caused more harm than good in Iran, despite its positive aspects.
10:47
Spirituality is a non-logical connection between people that transcends genetic or rational explanation
16:42
His mom, used to luxury, had to work at Nordstrom in Seattle
19:54
Barry Diller went straight to the source to get real-world information, bypassing filtered reports.
28:05
AI agents can gather information and provide unexpected travel results
32:19
An umbrella agent representing user interests could revolutionize travel booking
34:50
User preferences are shaped by context, combining taste, convenience, and price in decision-making.
36:48
Uber is an operating system for daily life, offering convenience to consumers and economic opportunity to workers.
41:45
Blinkit may be larger and growing faster than Zomato's core business
42:10
Building in a segment underserved by existing players could lead to competition or acquisition.
47:31
In tough times, leaders must shift from collaboration to making hard decisions.
53:08
Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should.
53:32
Internal competition at Uber helped identify winning strategies but required automation to scale.
56:06
Being humble and curious about competitors motivates us and our team.
58:36
Build a business with strong unit economics instead of overthinking TAM.
1:01:53
Labor costs in the US prevent automation from offsetting expenses in quick commerce.
1:05:15
Combining camera, radar, and LiDAR is likely the best path to superhuman safety in autonomous driving
1:10:11
Training AVs on chaotic traffic like India's could improve global safety performance
1:13:31
Cloud Kitchens offer an industrialized way to provide healthy food
1:21:06
Chinese EV innovation stems from top-down policy and bottom-up competition

Chapters

Intro
00:00
Dara’s visits to India
01:22
Uber’s Indian competitors
01:58
Growing up in Iran
04:42
Dara on religion & spirituality
10:47
From Iran to US
16:40
Key lesson from Barry Diller
19:54
How AI can reinvent travel
28:05
Dara’s vision for fixing travel
32:12
Decoding taste from data
34:50
What Uber really represents
36:48
Selling Uber Eats to Zomato
38:48
Opportunities in mobility, delivery & quick commerce
42:10
Authenticity & collaboration
44:32
David vs. Goliath: Uber’s image strategy
49:26
Team rivalry: strategy or risk?
53:29
DoorDash vs. Uber
55:59
Why India matters to Uber
57:24
Opportunity vs. TAM
58:31
Why quick commerce hasn’t taken off in the US
1:01:50
Autonomous vehicles vs. drivers
1:05:15
AVs & Indian roads
1:10:02
Data challenges
1:12:39
Cooking automation & the future of dining
1:13:29
Building brands without ads
1:17:36
Labour costs & immigration policies
1:20:27
China’s incredible EVs
1:21:03
The EV slowdown
1:24:51
Will Uber become a super app?
1:26:48
What would Dara build today?
1:29:39

Transcript

Nikhil Kamath: Wow, that looks very dead. Dara Khosrowshahi: In the background, you have a good day here. It's hot, though, right? It's typical SF weather. Yesterday was super, super cool. I haven't been outside, so I didn't know it was hot today. Nikhil...