From Vibe Coding to Vibe Researching: OpenAI’s Mark Chen and Jakub Pachocki
The a16z Show
2025/09/25
From Vibe Coding to Vibe Researching: OpenAI’s Mark Chen and Jakub Pachocki
From Vibe Coding to Vibe Researching: OpenAI’s Mark Chen and Jakub Pachocki

The a16z Show
2025/09/25
The conversation dives into the next frontier of AI development, focusing on the evolution from basic pattern recognition to systems capable of deep reasoning and autonomous discovery. As models grow more sophisticated, the focus shifts toward building AI that can act as true research partners, driving innovation in science and technology through extended reasoning and real-world application.
The panel discusses OpenAI's progress with GPT-5, emphasizing its fusion of fast responses and long-horizon reasoning, which enables transformative applications in math, physics, and coding. Traditional benchmarks are no longer sufficient, so evaluation is shifting toward real-world impact, such as economically valuable discoveries. Reinforcement learning has reemerged as a key driver, especially when combined with language models, enabling better reward modeling and real-world grounding. The New Codex exemplifies this shift, making 'vibe coding' the new norm where AI-generated code surpasses human efficiency. The vision of an automated researcher—capable of sustained, agentic problem-solving—is central to OpenAI’s roadmap. Success hinges on balancing stability with depth of reasoning, particularly in open-ended domains. Culturally, OpenAI prioritizes mission-driven talent, protects fundamental research, and treats compute as a critical constraint. Trust, collaboration, and persistence remain foundational to breakthroughs, as the team focuses on long-term impact over short-term demos.
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GPT-5 combines instant-response and long-thinking models for better reasoning
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Reasoning is core to long-horizon model operation.
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Language modeling breakthrough allowed RL to be applied to natural language, opening new research directions
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Reward modeling will rapidly evolve toward more human-like learning approaches.
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Coding from scratch feels strange in the age of AI-assisted development
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Researchers must be ready to fail and learn from failures to make progress.
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Identifying bugs in software and thinking is a major breakthrough in research.
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Researchers are hired based on problem-solving ability, not social media visibility.
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Compute is destiny at a research organization like OpenAI
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Robotics will be a major focus in the future of AI
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Trust between two people at OpenAI has remained unchanged through the changes.