#1032 - Joshua Citarella - The Dark Subcultures of Online Politics
Modern Wisdom
2025/12/13
#1032 - Joshua Citarella - The Dark Subcultures of Online Politics
#1032 - Joshua Citarella - The Dark Subcultures of Online Politics

Modern Wisdom
2025/12/13
In this conversation, Joshua Citarella unpacks the complex relationship between internet culture and political evolution, focusing on how digital spaces have become incubators for new ideological formations. Moving beyond surface-level interpretations of online behavior, the discussion reveals how memes, irony, and subcultural experimentation are reshaping political identity—especially among Gen Z.
The podcast explores how internet subcultures function as early indicators of political change, with young people navigating ideology through a fragmented, meme-driven landscape rather than linear radicalization. Traditional frameworks fail to capture this fluidity, as youth blend ideas across spectrums, rejecting gatekept narratives in favor of authenticity. Figures like Nick Fuentes illustrate how niche online influence translates to real-world movements, while climate activism's shock tactics risk alienating the very audiences they seek to mobilize. The left’s alienation of young men through dismissive rhetoric has accelerated a drift toward populist conservatism, exposing structural failures in healthcare, economics, and belonging. Yet, underlying this shift is a deeper search for meaning, resilience, and tangible effort—values increasingly mirrored in both personal development and political affiliation. Irony and performance complicate distinctions between belief and provocation, demanding more nuanced analysis of online speech. Ultimately, the conversation highlights how digital communities are not just reflecting but actively producing political reality, where emotional resonance often outweighs ideological consistency.
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