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How TBPN Built the Luxury Brand of the Creator Economy

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How TBPN Built the Luxury Brand of the Creator Economy

The Colin and Samir Show

Jan 28
The Colin and Samir Show

The Colin and Samir Show

Jan 28
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In this episode, we sit down with Jordi Hayes and John Coogan, the hosts of TBPN, a daily, live technology and business show that’s quietly become one of the most premium properties in modern media. TBN runs three hours live every weekday across YouTube, ...

Highlights

In this episode, we hear from Jordi Hayes and John Coogan—the dynamic duo behind TBPN, a live, daily technology and business show that’s redefining what premium, creator-led media can be.
08:13
TBPN structured its ad product for predictable revenue and avoids last-minute ad-selling for payroll
13:31
Ultra-short 15-second host-read ads prevent audience tuning out while delivering consistent daily value
15:55
Their high-advertising approach is a deliberate differentiator—not just revenue-driven, but aligned with brand identity and audience trust
21:27
They treated sales pitches like startup fundraising, presenting a slide deck to Ramp's CEO.
27:09
Most of the audience watches the recording, and content is used as marketing for the main show
37:58
They decide not to have guests in the first 90 minutes of the show, believing it makes the show unique
43:31
The media landscape is a barbell: value accrues to platforms and individual creators, leaving a 'messy middle' for talent aggregators
54:18
Brand building means making people feel something multiple times—not just achieving wide reach
59:10
Tweet reactions were framed as 'love letters to Silicon Valley', emphasizing ideas over social hierarchy
1:01:39
Pitched a live tech show to Elon Musk to compete with Twitch
1:13:25
IPOs are the Super Bowl of tech—rare, high-stakes culminations of years of work
1:20:22
TBPN's high-value advertising slots likely trade in six- to seven-figures
1:22:45
Turning down opportunities preserves the show's rhythm and long-term success
1:25:35
An interviewer asked hard questions to Tim Cook from Apple 10 years ago, then interviewed him again 10 years later
1:33:19
True insider trading involves non-public information about other companies, not one's own harvest or business

Chapters

How TBPN reinvented daily tech news as a live, three-hour hybrid show
00:00
Why they made ads feel like part of the show—not interruptions
11:00
What happened when they cut ad reads to just 15 seconds—and doubled impact
15:55
How they locked in 2025 ad revenue before the year even began
21:27
Why they’re obsessed with 100,000 deeply engaged followers—not millions
27:09
How targeting CEOs and founders—not general audiences—changed everything
32:23
Why they’re choosing durability over venture-backed growth
40:44
What makes TBPN a 'luxury brand' in the creator economy?
51:44
How random tweet reactions turned into billion-dollar attention
56:46
Could live tech streaming beat Twitch—and why Elon heard them out
1:01:39
What makes an IPO more exciting than the Super Bowl—for their audience?
1:13:25
Why listeners actually *look forward* to their ads
1:17:56
How saying 'no' to big opportunities kept the show authentic
1:22:45
What changes after interviewing someone ten times—and why it matters
1:25:35
Are prediction markets journalism tools—or dangerous distractions?
1:28:07

Transcript

Jordi Hayes: Even the biggest creators in the world don't have a big enough audience to just use that audience to create a standalone business. John Coogan: We're on track to do like 5,000 host-read ads next year. Colin Rosenblum: 5,000 host-read ads. Wo...