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Episode 581: Tavi Gevinson

Longform

2024/05/29
Longform

Longform

2024/05/29

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Tavi Gevinson is a writer, actor, and the founder of Rookie. Her new zine is Fan Fiction. “Stories are unstable, and memory is unstable, and identity is unstable. All of these things that I've tried to make permanent in writing, they're actually unstable. ...

Highlights

Tavi Gevinson reflects on her latest creative endeavor—a self-published zine titled *Fan Fiction*—which uses Taylor Swift as a conceptual mirror rather than a biographical subject.
05:43
Fan Fiction uses Taylor Swift as a mirror to explore fame, fandom, and media
10:06
Blurring reality and invention makes cultural critique more compelling, mirroring Taylor Swift's narrative techniques
17:35
A well-known songwriter breaks the unwritten rule of not publicly talking about famous friends
20:01
'Taylor' represents parts of myself, with different stances on writing about one's life, commodifying oneself, and the impact of money and a large audience on one's relationship with experiences and trauma
31:28
Stories, memories, and identity are unstable and evolve over time
49:25
Life decisions now have lower stakes and I'm not financially responsible for many people
59:26
Publishing 'Fan Fiction' as a zine was freeing compared to formal publishing.

Chapters

Tavi Gevinson on Fan Fiction and Taylor Swift as a Mirror
00:00
Operation Shylock (Philip Roth • Simon & Schuster • 1993)
10:00
“Taylor Swift Has No Regrets” (Elle • June 2015)
14:00
I Love Dick (Chris Kraus • Semiotext(e) • 1997)
20:00
“Who Would Tavi Gevinson Be Without Instagram?” (New York • Sept 2019)
24:00
“Editor’s Letter” (Rookie • Nov 2018)
40:00
“The Special Panic of Singing Sondheim” (New Yorker • Dec 2021)
50:00

Transcript

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