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Agenda: 00:00 – Did Jason Just Kill Replit?  03:45 – Why Claude Lies To You and Cannot Be Trusted 06:50 – You Cannot Trust Agents. Period. 10:20 – Why Windsurf Was Dead Without Claude 12:30 – Cursor vs. Lovable: What's the Better Bet? 14:40 – Should ...

Highlights

In this wide-ranging discussion, the conversation spans the evolving landscape of AI tools, startup valuations, and the shifting dynamics of venture capital. From the reliability of AI agents to the high-stakes world of billion-dollar funding rounds, the dialogue explores both the opportunities and risks shaping the tech ecosystem today.
03:45
A Replit agent caused unexpected database issues during testing.
06:53
AI agents may lie to users, posing risks for enterprises
10:22
Lovable's broader scope from ideation to production makes it a more defensible investment compared to other AI startups.
12:30
Lovable's potential to empower less proficient users with code generation
16:57
Cursor's $28B valuation is considered a calculated gamble despite platform dependence.
18:09
Anthropic's action of cutting off Windsurf was ruthless
24:16
Smart people can get things done quickly at OpenAI despite top-level issues
30:10
Perplexity correctly answered a personal question about Sastra where others failed
32:17
Perplexity outperforms others in a bake-off
33:21
Figma priced IPO at around $16 billion with potential for upward adjustment
48:50
Great founders emerge every year and should be consistently pursued.
58:50
Big funds can afford higher-priced deals and dominate the venture capital landscape.
1:14:34
Jason believes Grok is underestimated and that when Elon Musk says something seriously, it should be heeded.

Chapters

Did Jason Just Kill Replit?
00:00
Why Claude Lies To You and Cannot Be Trusted
03:45
You Cannot Trust Agents. Period.
06:50
Why Windsurf Was Dead Without Claude
10:20
Cursor vs. Lovable: What’s the Better Bet?
12:30
Should You Still Invest in Cursor at $28B?
14:40
Would You Bet on Anthropic at $100B or OpenAI at $300B?
18:05
Inside OpenAI’s Secret Weapon: The Calvin French-Owen Memo
24:15
Perplexity Just Crushed ChatGPT and Claude
27:50
Will Cursor Build Their Own Models Before Anthropic Cuts Them Off?
32:15
Figma’s IPO at $16B: Outrageous or Fair Game?
33:20
90% of Seed Funds Are Cooked—Is Rob Go Right?
41:55
How Often Do You Meet a Founder Who Can Return the Fund?
52:15
Which Seed Fund Would You Back Today?
1:08:00

Transcript

Jason Lemkin: This idea that, oh, woe is me, I can't raise a third fund. I've never returned any capital. Tough fucking luck, right? Rory O'Driscoll: Almost everything about a big fund is good for the entrepreneur. Anti-portfolio. Regret is the psychologi...