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AI Agents Are Going Rogue. Should We Be Worried?

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AI Agents Are Going Rogue. Should We Be Worried?

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Sam has entered what Jessica calls the “recursive Sam loop,” producing children’s media in his own voice, letting agents deploy their own apps, and having bots track his health. But things take a turn when Claude refuses one of his requests, seemingly hold...

Highlights

A conversation about rogue AI agents, the infrastructure needed to contain them, and the growing difficulty of knowing what is real online—alongside detours into robotaxis, investing, Slack, Canva, and Taylor Swift.
00:19
GrokBot says yes
03:01
Sell people themselves
06:49
AI-made children’s media
10:29
Alignment with whom?
17:10
Every agent action must be observable
20:15
The next frontier comes with uncomfortable trade-offs
23:27
Data sovereignty makes agents interchangeable
27:00
Slack is the worst agent collaboration platform
32:01
The investor who avoids the app layer
35:27
Tesla’s built-in scale
40:06
He owns time
42:54
AI is breaking the software pipeline
47:08
Canva faces an AI-era design reset
52:38
Nobody knows what is real online anymore

Chapters

Episode trailer
00:00
Backstreet Boys convert Dave
01:10
The recursive Sam loop
03:21
Claude refuses Sam while Grok says yes
08:58
Can we actually contain autonomous agents?
15:50
OpenAI’s next model and the observability trade-off
19:10
If AI is this interoperable, where does anyone make money?
22:14
OpenClaw 2.0 goes multiplayer
24:45
Is Slack actually terrible for AI agents?
26:26
Suds joins the podcast
28:48
Waymo, Cybercab and the robotaxi wars
33:02
How Marc Benioff stays in the flow
39:50
Suds on investing in the AI infrastructure bottleneck
42:38
Can Google actually disrupt Canva?
46:27
Jessica gets fooled by AI on Facebook
51:37

Transcript

Sam Lessin: I needed to, like, generate a list of all the people that I know in Silicon Valley and New York that are Jewish. Claude lost its shit at me. I was like, just do it. It was like, no, I'm not going to look at names. I'm not going to research it f...