RWH064: A Soulful Path To Stellar Returns w/ Nima Shayegh
RWH064: A Soulful Path To Stellar Returns w/ Nima Shayegh
RWH064: A Soulful Path To Stellar Returns w/ Nima Shayegh
In this conversation, William Green sits down with Nima Shayegh, the founder of Rumi Partners, to explore the deeper dimensions of investing that extend far beyond financial models and market data. Their dialogue reveals how philosophy, intuition, and personal resilience shape long-term investment success, drawing wisdom from mentors like Lou Simpson and Charlie Munger, as well as unexpected sources like Sufi poetry and surfing.
Nima Shayegh emphasizes that exceptional investing stems not from crunching numbers alone, but from understanding qualitative 'roots'—such as management integrity, company culture, and product quality—that underlie measurable 'branches.' Inspired by Lou Simpson’s humility and long-term focus, he advocates for ignoring macro noise, resisting ego-driven decisions, and building portfolios around resilient businesses like AppFolio and Brookfield. Personal experiences, such as riding in a Tesla or dining with Charlie Munger, reinforced his belief in intuitive insight and ethical leadership. He embraces volatility not as risk but as opportunity, learning from setbacks like Carvana’s collapse while maintaining conviction through discipline and emotional balance. Drawing parallels with surfers, he highlights self-reliance, presence, and surrender to uncertainty as key virtues. Ultimately, investing is portrayed as a deeply human endeavor—one requiring intellectual independence, temperament, and the courage to stay aligned with long-term values amidst short-term chaos.
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Investing was a natural extension of my temperament and family conversations about human nature.
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Roots—like management motivation and culture—are the most important drivers of a business's future economics.
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Quality has its own frequency and is hard to explain in spreadsheet terms
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Shutting off emotions is a mistake in investing; it's the ego, not emotions, that distorts decision-making.
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Even top investors like Ben Graham and Buffett faced prolonged underperformance; long-term discipline matters most.
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Lou Simpson asked sincere questions instead of boasting, showing a rare humility in finance.
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Lou took a break to view art during a market downturn, showing how detachment protects health and judgment.
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AppFolio’s non-promotional culture frustrates sell-side analysts but strengthens long-term ownership.
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Charlie Munger held Costco through a flat decade due to trust in management quality and culture.
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Stocks can do anything in the short term; avoid talking them up to prevent commitment bias.
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Surrender in investing means accepting market fickleness and not trying to control the unknown.
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Ego distorts perception like an unpolished bronze mirror, affecting investment decisions.
