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#2347 - Paul Stamets

The Joe Rogan Experience

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Paul Stamets is a mycologist and advocate for mushrooms for helping the overall health of people and planet. His new book, "Psilocybin Mushrooms in Their Natural Habitats: A Guide to the History, Identification, and Use of Psychoactive Fungi," is available now.  www.fungi.comwww.hostdefense.comwww.paulstamets.com Get 50% off at https://onxmaps.com/joerogan Don’t miss out on all the action - Download the DraftKings app today! Sign-up at https://dkng.co/rogan or with my promo code ROGAN. GAMBLING PROBLEM? CALL 1-800-GAMBLER, (800) 327-5050 or visit gamblinghelplinema.org (MA). Call 877-8-HOPENY/text HOPENY (467369) (NY). Please Gamble Responsibly. 888-789-7777/visit ccpg.org (CT), or visit www.mdgamblinghelp.org (MD). 21+ and present in most states. (18+ DC/KY/NH/WY). Void in ONT/OR/NH. Eligibility restrictions apply. On behalf of Boot Hill Casino & Resort (KS). 1 per new customer. $5+ first-time bet req. Max. $150 issued as non-withdrawable Bonus Bets that expire in 7 days (168 hours). Stake removed from payout. Terms: dkng.co/dk-offer-terms. Ends 7/20/25 at 11:59 PM ET. Sponsored by DK Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Highlights

In a wide-ranging conversation, mycologist Paul Stamets delves into the profound implications of psilocybin mushrooms—not only as tools for personal transformation but as catalysts for societal, spiritual, and even cosmic understanding. From ancient rituals to cutting-edge neuroscience, the dialogue bridges millennia of human inquiry with modern scientific exploration.
07:15
Psychedelics may reform 'bad' people by addressing root psychological issues.
08:39
Thousands of new species are discovered each year through citizen scientists using the iNaturalist app.
14:00
A 15th-century Christian cross depicts psilocybin mushrooms, indicating early syncretism with indigenous practices
18:30
95% of clergy ranked psilocybin experience among their top five most significant spiritual events
23:03
Offering $1000 for proof of psilocybin mushroom DNA in ancient Egyptian wells
25:42
Halos in religious art resemble psilocybin mushroom caps, suggesting entheogenic symbolism.
28:32
Psilocybin can profoundly expand one's imagination and sense of existence.
34:27
AI may never write an algorithm for random acts of kindness.
40:34
AI could lead to the extinction of biological species if not guided by human values.
46:38
Dr. Pam Crisco's group has health approval for high-dose psilocybin in end-of-life care in Canada
49:48
Genes for psilocybin emerged in fungi approximately 65 million years ago, linked to post-extinction ecological changes.
55:32
Evolution is based on generosity, not just survival of the fittest
59:15
Snapping turtles can cooperate and strike with incredible speed when feeding.
1:02:30
Psilocybin has been shown to stimulate neuron growth in lab studies with a DEA license.
1:06:39
Psilocybin may be viable for daily use to prevent neurodegeneration
1:06:39
Psilocybin may have catalyzed the evolution of human language according to the stoned ape theory
1:09:47
Psilocybin stimulates neuron proliferation, supporting theories of mushroom-driven brain evolution
1:12:40
Scientists should dare to be wrong to foster innovation
1:51:04
Mycelium extracts reduce viruses in bees and extend longevity, published in Nature Scientific Reports

Chapters

What if mushrooms hold the key to healing minds and societies?
00:00
Can psychedelics change who we are at our core?
05:52
How everyday people are discovering new species with their phones
08:39
Why pattern recognition might be humanity’s oldest survival skill
14:00
When Catholic saints met sacred mushrooms in Mesoamerica
17:08
Did Adam and Eve eat psychedelic mushrooms?
20:15
Were mushrooms seen as divine food in ancient Egypt and beyond?
25:42
How psilocybin expands the mind—and challenges religious beliefs
28:32
Can AI ever learn to be kind without human guidance?
34:27
What happens when artificial intelligence outpaces human control?
40:34
How dying patients find peace through guided mushroom journeys
46:38
Facing death: what psychedelics teach us about life's end
49:48
Did mushrooms evolve alongside the fall of the dinosaurs?
52:47
Is life inevitable in the universe? Voyager’s silent journey suggests yes
55:32
Orcas, turtles, and the surprising intelligence of nature
58:26
Why cities fail at waste—but islands succeed
1:00:49
How psilocybin helps grow new brain cells
1:03:25
Could magic mushrooms reduce crime and cure depression?
1:06:39
Did psychedelics spark human language and consciousness?
1:09:47
From Einstein to Steve Jobs: can mushrooms fuel genius?
1:12:40
Beyond social media: reclaiming truth, purpose, and natural immunity
1:15:21

Transcript

Paul Stamets: Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day. We up? Put my headphones on. Joe Rogan: Let's rock and roll, Paul. Good to see you, sir. Paul Stamets: Good to see you, Joe. Joe ...