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10 Years of Acquired (with Michael Lewis)

Acquired

2025/12/15
Acquired

Acquired

2025/12/15

Shownote

Why has Acquired — seemingly against all odds — “worked”? It's a puzzling question: episodes are four hours long, they come out infrequently, and they usually don’t have guests or video. Hardly the standard-issue playbook for podcasting success! And yet well over a million smart, curious and exceedingly busy humans share their (your!) valuable time with us every month. Why? This is the exact paradox that has been rolling around in the head of Michael Lewis (yes, that Michael Lewis) since he found the show earlier this year. So we asked Michael to be our guest "interlocutor" and share what he thinks is going on here, while we share ten lessons we've stolen (graciously) from companies we've studied and brought into Acquired itself. He takes us through the entire Acquired journey: how we started, why we've never hired anyone or raised money, how we pick episodes, what our business model actually is, why we focus on quality and enjoyment over maximizing enterprise value, and ultimately why we’re all — you, him, us — kindred spirits together. Oh, and just for fun, we recorded this episode where another special journey began — the garage where Google was founded. Thank you for an incredible decade together… here's to the next one! Sponsors: Many thanks to our fantastic Fall ‘25 Season partners: * J.P. Morgan Payments [https://bit.ly/JPMP10yearpod] (you can watch our full show with them at AWS re:Invent here [https://youtu.be/2ExjNvGYDiU?si=34mmBQTfCQTdIabJ]!) * WorkOS [https://bit.ly/workos25] * Sentry [https://bit.ly/acquiredsentry] * Shopify [https://bit.ly/ShopifyACQ25] Thank-yous: * First, to Google for loaning us the garage. The sawhorse table desk, PC and CRT monitor on display in the background were all Google originals courtesy of the Google Founders Collection at the Computer History Museum. So cool! * Second, to our friends at Shep Films [https://www.shepfilms.com] for helping us seriously up our game on production quality this episode! Our Favorite Michael Lewis Books: * Home Game [https://www.amazon.com/Home-Game-Accidental-Guide-Fatherhood/dp/0393338096] * Moneyball [https://www.amazon.com/Moneyball-Art-Winning-Unfair-Game/dp/0393324818] * Liar’s Poker [https://www.amazon.com/Liars-Poker-Norton-Paperback-Michael/dp/039333869X] * The Blind Side [https://www.amazon.com/Blind-Side-Evolution-Game/dp/0393330478] * The Undoing Project [https://www.amazon.com/Undoing-Project-Friendship-Changed-Minds/dp/0393254593] (as referenced by Michael in the beginning, about Daniel Kahneman and Amos Tversky) Carve Outs: * Books:  * The Name of the Wind [https://www.amazon.com/Name-Wind-Kingkiller-Chronicle/dp/0756404746] by Patrick Rothfuss * Science, the Endless Frontier [https://nsf-gov-resources.nsf.gov/2023-04/EndlessFrontier75th_w.pdf] by Vannevar Bush * Last Man Standing: The Ascent of Jamie Dimon and JPMorgan Chase [https://www.amazon.com/Last-Man-Standing-Ascent-JPMorgan/dp/1416599541] by Duff McDonald * The Art of Spending Money [https://www.amazon.com/Art-Spending-Money-Simple-Choices/dp/B0F5585V8M/] by Morgan Housel * Emperors of Chocolate [https://www.amazon.com/Emperors-Chocolate-Inside-Secret-Hershey/dp/0679421904] by Joel Glenn Brenner * Morris Chang's Autobiography [https://karinabao.substack.com/p/morris-changs-memoir-chapter-1-english] * Podcasts:  * Against the Rules [https://atrpodcast.com/] * Revisionist History [https://www.pushkin.fm/podcasts/revisionist-history] * SmartLess [https://www.smartless.com/] * The Daily [https://www.nytimes.com/column/the-daily] * The Bill Simmons Podcast [https://www.theringer.com/the-bill-simmons-podcast] * Graham Duncan on Invest Like the Best [https://joincolossus.com/episode/graham-duncan-talent-whisperer/] * Glue Guys [https://open.spotify.com/show/18n6FcVMR5J0hSeboeETPc?si=e33a5c76cca14289] * Video:  * Jay Kelly [https://www.imdb.com/title/tt30446847/] * The Rehearsal [https://www.hbo.com/the-rehearsal] * Doug DeMuro [https://www.youtube.com/@DougDeMuro] * Tires [https://www.imdb.com/title/tt31491435/] * F1 The Movie [https://tv.apple.com/us/movie/f1-the-movie/umc.cmc.3t6dvnnr87zwd4wmvpdx5came] * Andor [https://www.disneyplus.com/series/andor/3xsQKWG00GL5] * Fallout [https://www.amazon.com/Fallout-Season-1/dp/B0CN4GGGQ2] * Severance [https://tv.apple.com/us/show/severance/umc.cmc.1srk2goyh2q2zdxcx605w8vtx] * Silo [https://tv.apple.com/us/show/silo/umc.cmc.3yksgc857px0k0rqe5zd4jice] * Video Games:  * Sea of Stars [https://seaofstarsgame.co/] * Kirby and the Forgotten Land [https://www.nintendo.com/us/store/products/kirby-and-the-forgotten-land-switch/] * Products:  * ARTEZA Rollerball Pen 0.7mm Fine [https://www.amazon.com/Arteza-Rollerball-Journaling-Writing-Sketching/dp/B0819SWQQV/?th=1] * Rotring 800 Mechanical Pencil [https://www.amazon.com/Retractable-Mechanical-Engineering-Architecture-Professionals/dp/B00AZWNS84/] * Fujifilm X100VI [https://fujifilm-x.com/en-us/products/cameras/x100vi/] * Uniqlo Socks! [https://www.uniqlo.com/us/en/products/E482605-000/00?colorDisplayCode=15&sizeDisplayCode=027] * On Running Shoes [https://www.on-running.com/en-us/] * Rimowa Luggage [https://www.rimowa.com/us/en/home] * Parenting:  * Guided Access on iPad [https://support.apple.com/en-us/111795] * Toy Story [https://www.disneyplus.com/movies/toy-story/1Ye1nzUgtF7d] * SlumberPod [https://slumberpod.com/] * Bluey Experience in NYC [https://camp.com/bluey-x-camp-nyc] More Acquired: * Get email updates [https://www.acquired.fm/email] and vote on future episodes! * Join the Slack [http://acquired.fm/slack] * Subscribe to ACQ2 [https://pod.link/acquiredlp] * Check out the latest swag in the ACQ Merch Store [https://www.acquired.fm/store]! ‍Note: Acquired hosts and guests may hold assets discussed in this episode. This podcast is not investment advice, and is intended for informational and entertainment purposes only. You should do your own research and make your own independent decisions when considering any financial transactions.

Highlights

What makes a podcast succeed when it defies every modern content rule? Acquired, with its marathon episodes and minimal output, has built a devoted global audience not by chasing trends but by embracing depth, trust, and intellectual joy. In this special anniversary episode, the hosts welcome acclaimed author Michael Lewis—not as a guest in the traditional sense, but as a curious observer trying to unravel the show’s improbable magic. Recorded at the birthplace of Google, the conversation becomes a reflective journey into how authenticity, scarcity, and long-term thinking can create something enduring in an age of noise.
02:52
The podcast’s deep, research-driven storytelling feels like academic work.
20:33
Warren Buffett tracked Michael Lewis's trades and respected his decision to sell shares for charity.
32:49
Great Acquired episodes feature a hero's journey, a hidden secret, and global importance.
40:48
After the market reset, we felt confident in our path by not chasing easy money.
51:31
Jensen Huang reached out to verify their sources after an accurate NVIDIA episode.
1:00:39
Hamilton Helmer's 'Seven Powers' provides a strategic lens for understanding business durability.
1:13:34
Editing takes about three days per cycle, usually two cycles to finalize.
1:23:12
They added an investment fund and have invested in five private-company sponsors.
1:28:09
Not all dollars are created equal—pursue only projects expected to be great.
1:40:50
If one of us is passionate about an episode, it's worth doing.
1:50:34
Costco's low SKU count drives faster inventory turnover and stronger vendor relationships.
1:58:37
Acquired helps be a better investor by studying mature businesses
2:18:20
The likely reason for Acquired to fail is losing delight in new discoveries

Chapters

How did a chance encounter at Google Camp spark a deeper inquiry into podcasting success?
00:00
What happens when you apply Buffett-style patience and craftsmanship to content creation?
15:34
Why does trusting your audience matter more than chasing viral topics?
25:19
How did moving beyond acquisitions transform the show’s storytelling power?
35:27
What does it take to uncover the truth behind iconic companies—and admit when you’re wrong?
46:27
Can a single framework reveal the hidden engines of durable businesses?
58:11
What are the invisible hours behind turning raw conversation into compelling narrative?
1:03:18
How do you build a business model where sponsors feel like partners, not interruptions?
1:15:46
Why saying no to growth might be the most powerful creative decision?
1:28:09
Where does stored potential energy lie in great companies—and great podcasts?
1:33:06
What can Costco and TSMC teach us about staying focused and shipping excellence?
1:45:51
How does studying giants make you better at spotting opportunity—even in silence?
1:55:49
What really sustains a podcast for ten years when everything else fades?
2:01:05

Transcript

Ben Gilbert: Happy 10 years. David Rosenthal: Happy 10 year anniversary, Ben. Ben Gilbert: It's crazy. It's been 10 years, I know. David Rosenthal: Here we are. Brought you down here to Silicon Valley to record our 10 year anniversary holiday special he...