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‘Modern Love’: "Materialists" Director Celine Song Believes in Love at First Conversation

The Daily

2025/06/29
The Daily

The Daily

2025/06/29
Celine Song, the acclaimed director behind 'Past Lives,' returns with another exploration of love in her new film 'Materialists.' This time, she delves into the world of matchmaking through a protagonist who, like Song herself, struggles to find love despite being immersed in its pursuit. In this episode of 'Modern Love,' Song reflects on the paradox of love—how it eludes understanding even as it shapes our lives. She also reads an essay by Louise Rafkin, whose own experiences mirror the contradictions many face when navigating romantic relationships.
Celine Song discusses how her personal and professional experiences have deepened her sense of mystery around love rather than clarified it. Her character Lucy, like herself, is a matchmaker who can't quite find love for herself, highlighting the irony and emotional complexity of guiding others while remaining uncertain personally. Song reads Louise Rafkin's essay about being a relationship columnist without a successful love life, underscoring the universal struggle to understand romantic connection. Through various stories—from couples meeting in unusual ways to personal tales of intellectual chemistry—the podcast examines whether there’s ever a formula for finding 'the one.' Ultimately, love is framed not as something to be controlled or fully understood, but as an ongoing act of surrender and everyday commitment.
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Love is easy because it can't be controlled, but hard because of that very lack of control.
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A man married a woman from Mauritius after exchanging two postcards and proposing within a week
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They realized they were either going to be nemesis or fall in love after exchanging their first plays.