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Stephen Kotkin：从斯大林的大清洗看今天的习近平

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Stephen Kotkin：从斯大林的大清洗看今天的习近平

不明白播客

2025/08/17
不明白播客

不明白播客

2025/08/17
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从习近平的清洗、接班人问题、到中美技术竞争，我们和著名历史学家 Stephen Kotkin 科特金教授讨论了当下最值得关注的一些话题。  科特金教授是胡佛研究所高级研究员，也是研究苏联和斯大林最顶尖的学者。他是两卷本《斯大林传》的作者，正在撰写第三卷。他对斯大林的研究重塑了我们对列宁主义政权运行逻辑的理解。他的研究超越了苏联，延伸到全球威权主义，并越来越关注当代中国。  在这期节目里，科特金教授解释了他为什么说斯大林而不是毛泽东是独裁者的最高典范，为什么希特勒多次遭遇暗杀而斯大林却没有，如何从斯大林 30 年...

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In this episode, we delve into the intricate dynamics of authoritarianism, drawing parallels between historical figures like Stalin and contemporary leaders such as Xi Jinping. Renowned historian Stephen Kotkin provides insights into the mechanisms of power, loyalty, and the challenges faced by authoritarian regimes, particularly in the context of China today.
00:03
Stalin's survival during assassination attempts is crucial.
02:47
Mao's rule led to more deaths than Stalin's.
08:00
Xi Jinping's leadership reflects complex historical influences.
12:54
The party's power is seen as essential for China's greatness
14:10
Xi Jinping reinforces party control over the private sector.
18:06
Political liberalization leads to regime collapse
22:18
Xi Jinping played a role in shifting the party school's stance on political opening.
24:57
Xi Jinping is a product and defender of China's Leninist regime
26:29
Loyalty from military is crucial for regime survival.
30:55
Maintaining loyalty among subordinates is challenging.
38:41
Xi Jinping faces significant challenges in policy implementation due to the complexity of China's governance system.
39:34
Stalin's ability to instill loyalty contrasts with Hitler's leadership issues.
45:19
Resentment among China's elite could undermine Xi's rule.
49:54
Protests revealed widespread discontent with the regime.
54:59
Establishing a Stanford-only institute to promote Chinese culture freely
1:08:23
China’s rapid advances in AI, EV, clean energy, and battery technologies
1:10:06
China combines consumer and military applications in dual-use technologies
1:23:29
The U.S. must build leverage to shape terms with China
1:28:50
Taiwan's democratic governance challenges the legitimacy of China's authoritarian system.
1:41:50
Succession issues in authoritarian regimes require free elections.
1:50:01
Engaging with China's creative individuals is crucial.
1:52:36
Courageous individuals can live authentically despite oppression.
2:04:12
The biography of Xi Jinping's father is praised for depicting the inner lives of Communist Party members.

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Stalin's Legacy and Xi Jinping's Politics
00:00
为什么斯大林而不是毛泽东是独裁者的最高典范 Gold Standard？
02:43
斯大林的崛起轨迹是否有助于理解习近平？
08:00
习近平一上台就打算好了做独裁者吗？
12:54
共产党和私营企业的关系
14:10
“你不可能成为半个共产党员，就好像你不可能是半个孕妇”
18:06
中央党校学习两件事：东升西降与苏联倒台
22:14
列宁主义政权与政治改革的不兼容性
24:57
习近平清洗和斯大林清洗的相似之处
26:29
习近平在庞大系统里的困境：亲信也可能是威胁
30:44
习近平在日常事务或政策问题上的权力局限
38:39
为什么希特勒多次遭遇暗杀而斯大林却没有
39:34
习政权最大弱点：精英阶层的疑虑
45:14
清零政策意外对普通中国人的揭示作用
49:50
中情局招募中共官员的广告是否有效
52:39
以孔子学院为例，如何应对中共在软实力上的挑战
54:50
如何回应美国目前的移民和经济政策
59:50
科技对决：美苏冷战的教训及苏联与中国技术实力的比较
1:09:57
科技竞争可以解决政权合法性及统治的脆弱性吗？
1:19:00
台湾问题与习近平的考量
1:28:50
习近平会指定继承者吗？
1:41:50
我们要为习近平继续执政 20 年甚至 25 年做好准备
1:50:01
“在不自由的体制下，依然能活出自由的人生”
1:52:30
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2:00:10

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袁莉: 大家好，欢迎来到不明白播客，我是主持人袁莉，节目开始前跟大家说个事儿。第二届不明白节将于 9 月 6 日在华盛顿举办，线下及线上票都已经开始报名。一个好消息是我们将给不明白播客的付费订阅用户，与捐赠人赠送一张免费的线上票。详情请到播客评论区或我们的社交媒体账号。高级研究员 Stephen Kotkin 考特金教授，他是两卷本斯大林传的作者，正在撰写第三卷。他对斯大林的研究，重塑了我们对共产集权，运作逻辑的理解。他的研究超越了苏联，延伸到全球威权主义，并越来越多的转向当代中国。在这期节目里，我们谈到了...