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Tools for Overcoming Substance & Behavioral Addictions | Ryan Soave

Huberman Lab

2025/04/21
Huberman Lab

Huberman Lab

2025/04/21

Shownote

My guest is Ryan Soave, LMHC, a leading expert in addiction recovery with extensive experience helping people heal from all types of substance and behavioral dependencies. We discuss actionable tools for breaking out of the addictive cycle and staying free...

Highlights

In this episode, Andrew Huberman welcomes Ryan Soave, a licensed mental health counselor specializing in addiction recovery. Together, they delve into the complexities of addiction and recovery, exploring both behavioral and substance dependencies. The conversation highlights actionable strategies for breaking free from addictive cycles and emphasizes the importance of addressing underlying trauma and stress.
00:00
Addiction treatment requires addressing both trauma and behavior.
04:52
Addiction is a solution that becomes problematic as people get relief from it in their brain and body.
11:44
Limiting beliefs from childhood trauma affect adult behavior.
13:36
BetterHelp offers accessible online therapy options.
16:08
A good test for addiction is trying to quit for a month and observing thoughts.
26:37
Studies show video games impact the brain like drugs.
38:27
Family roles assigned in childhood can persist into adulthood.
40:16
Gut health is important for digestion, immune system, and neurotransmitter production.
43:13
Asking if you can take 30 days away from something determines addiction.
54:10
Recovery is about recognizing imbalance and returning to balance quickly.
1:00:52
Help people feel bad and lean into emotional reactions instead of running away
1:05:43
Embracing emotional disturbances leads to a fulfilling life.
1:08:40
Peace is building a better boat to navigate the storm, not avoiding it.
1:10:16
Function Health provides over 100 lab tests and expert insights.
1:12:03
Humans confuse discomfort with threat, responding as if in danger.
1:18:54
Managing the adrenaline response improves decision-making
1:29:38
Our body's danger response can be inappropriate in non-dangerous situations.
1:33:59
Yoga Nidra involves lying down, guided movements, and setting intentions.
1:41:55
Thoughts aren't fact; uncontrolled mind is the true foe.
1:48:35
Tools like Yoga Nidra and NSDR exist for better sleep and relaxation.
1:52:53
The Waking Up app provides diverse meditation programs for consistency.
1:57:14
Defining powerlessness is the first step to finding great power.
2:02:24
Gambling addiction can lead individuals to believe the next bet will solve problems.
2:14:38
Drugs like cocaine and amphetamines strongly affect the dopamine system.
2:15:54
Cocaine leads to fast dopamine increase and psychological addiction
2:18:21
Porn addiction has a powerful impact on the brain, similar to crack cocaine.
2:30:03
Struggle is distress, and the reward is often in the process.
2:39:03
12-step programs were founded by peers struggling with addiction.
2:47:06
Trauma starts with a wound, stress is the relationship to it, and addiction offers temporary relief but worsens the cycle.
2:49:05
GLP-1 agonists could revolutionize addiction treatment by addressing food and stress addictions.
2:55:13
Ibogaine trials demonstrate remission rates of 40% - 80% for addiction.
2:59:56
If someone close is struggling with addiction and not in a medical crisis, talk to them without shaming.
3:04:58
Pre-order 'Protocols, an Operating Manual for the Human Body' at protocolsbook.com

Chapters

Ryan Soave
00:00
Addiction, Addictive Behaviors, Relief
01:32
Rehab, Detox, Physical & Emotional Stability
06:10
Sponsors: BetterHelp & Levels
13:33
Recognizing Addition; Video Games, Parents & Responsibility
16:08
Experiencing Real Life vs Addictive Behavior; Dopamine Dynamics
23:38
Drugs & Feelings; Reordering Your Life; Roles, Kids vs Parents
29:38
Sponsors: AG1 & LMNT
40:03
Tool: 30 Days Abstinence & Addiction; Impact
43:13
Creating a Life Post-Addiction, Jellinek Curve
46:10
Tool: Emotional Weather Forecast, Gratitude, Plan, Strivings
55:30
Connection with Others, Mental Willpower Throughout Day, Defining Best Self
1:02:48
Emotional Weather Map, Navigating Life
1:08:39
Sponsor: Function
1:10:16
Tolerating Stress, Sailing Analogy, Discomfort
1:12:03
Building Distress Tolerance, Proactive Behaviors, Cold Plunge
1:16:03
Stilling Leads to Seeing, Tool: Recognizing Stress Response; Relationships
1:23:55
Yoga Nidra, Non-Sleep Deep Rest (NDSR)
1:30:56
Yoga Nidra & Authenticity, Breaking Patterns
1:38:54
Yoga Nidra Timing, Regulation of Autonomic Nervous System; Breathwork
1:45:45
Sponsor: Waking Up
1:52:53
Alcoholism, Social Acceptability, Community, AA, Powerlessness
1:54:28
Gambling, Kids & Susceptibility
2:02:23
Transmuting Energy, Running, Dopamine, Feelings
2:08:58
Cocaine, Amphetamine, Stimulant Addiction
2:15:41
Overcoming Porn Addiction, Shame
2:18:21
Struggle, “Discomfort Appetite”
2:30:03
Addiction Treatment, Detox, Rehab Centers, 12-Step Meetings, AA
2:36:09
Is Addiction the Problem?, Trauma, Stress & Addiction Cycle
2:46:54
GLP-1 Agonists & Addiction Treatment?, HALT; Addicted to Stress?
2:49:05
Sugar Addiction, Caffeine; Ibogaine, Psylocibin & Considerations
2:52:44
Helping Someone With Addiction
2:59:56
Zero-Cost Support, YouTube, Spotify & Apple Follow & Reviews, Sponsors, YouTube Feedback, Protocols Book, Social Media, Neural Network Newsletter
3:04:58

Transcript

Andrew Huberman: Welcome to the Huberman Lab podcast, where we discuss science and science-based tools for everyday life. I'm Andrew Huberman, and I'm a professor of neurobiology and ophthalmology at Stanford School of Medicine. My guest today is Ryan Soav...